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Guide/Video: Preparation and Execution of Hard Mode Crota.

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Looking for the Pit, the Bridge or Ir Yût Guide? Look here: [url]bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/94959551[/url] [u]UPDATE#1[/u]: non-commentary video walkthrough is now live! Thank you all for your continued patience! [u]UPDATE#2[/u]: Post has been modified to be more concise and helpful. Let me know if this guide helps any of you out! Welcome Guardians, This is [b]PART TWO[/b] of a two-part guide covering the necessary [i]Preparation[/i], [i]Strategy[/i], and [i]Execution [/i]of successful tactics to dominate Crota's End, Hard Mode. So let’s get started: [u][b]General Preparation[/b][/u] First, you'll need to prepare both your Guardian and your arsenal for the task at hand. If you're not already level 32, you should first dedicate some time to getting raid gear in normal. Level 31’s can’t even hold a candle to level 33 mobs, so level 32 is a must. 331 weapons are a must for newcomers and veterans, alike. VoG weapons are also acceptable here. You should also have gear, weapons, and abilities that proc health regeneration - as there is no chalice on Crota, and it is grueling without a way to regen. Don't be lazy about this; good preparation makes Crota significantly more bearable, and will cut down on the number of wipes, significantly. It is also worth noting that you should NOT expect to beat the raid within 30 minutes like you could in normal mode. This version is MUCH more unforgiving of mistakes, so bring your A-game, baby! ______________________________ [b][u]General Changes[/u][/b] If you’re reading this, I’m assuming that you’ve already been acquainted with normal mode and the basic mechanics and strategies; so, I will be using normal mode to reference the changes made to the raid's mechanics. [u]Basic Changes[/u] • All enemies are now level 33 - this means that enemies deal more damage to you and will take longer for you to kill. • A lot of mobs have been promoted to Majors, so be sure to be on the look out for them. ______________________________ [b][u]Walkthrough of Crota[/u][/b] [u][b](Crota)[/b][/u] Everything is painful at this point; you will not enjoy any of the carnage that Crota will indefinitely serve you - prepare for the river of tears you’ll leave along the way. [u]{Changes}[/u] There is NO Chalice - your survivability will truly be tested. You are responsible for your own health regeneration and you need to make sure you're on top of it - wipes aren't any fun. A Gatekeeper now spawns in middle, with the Thrall. He will tear you apart, so keep your distance. The Hallowed Knight that used to drop down to bridge has been replaced with a Hallowed Wizard that you’ll need to burn down before engaging Crota with sword. Ogre phase has been modified. A massive insurgence of Thrall now spawn from towers and will charge at you, relentlessly - no matter where you are. The single most important change is that Crota auto-enrages after losing enough health, roughly 15%. This means you have to be able to hit the threshold in the first part of your sword phase; this is to ensure that you have enough time to kill Crota before Oversoul kills you. It's not a [i]massive[/i] amount of changes, but it's still enough to make you question which strategy to use to take him down, effectively. [u]{Preparation}[/u] Your fireteam is going to need to split into 3 roles: 1 player on sword duty, 2 players on tower duty and 3 players on shield duty. [i]Sword duty[/i] is unchanged from normal mode; when the player has the sword, they’ll need to ascend the [i]left rock[/i] and call-out to players, on shield duty, when to drop Crota's shield. [i]Tower duty[/i] is more demanding now, since two shots from a boomer will kill you - forcing a wipe. As such, those on tower duty should ONLY be looking at left tower; this is to ensure constant lockdown on Boomers and Wizards. [i]Shield duty[/i] is a utility role where, unless burning down Crota's shields, they should be helping with tower duty and spawning orbs on stairs and near the left rock. The purpose of this orb generation is to help proc health regeneration, for players who need it, and to provide super energy to your player on sword duty – to maximize DPS on Crota. [u]{Strategy}[/u] For this guide, I will be explaining the left-stair strategy. After starting the phase, everyone should get on top of the door frames in the crystal room - as to avoid taking much damage. Clear both sides of the room then proceed outside, to the left; once outside, kill Boomers in left tower and start to Burn down the Swordbearer’s health. As you do this, a Wizard should spawn out of tower - if you killed both Boomers; burn her and the Swordbearer, near simultaneously. Once done, have your player on sword duty get on top of left rock and call-out when they are ready to burn Crota. Rinse and repeat once more, while sword is active, and you should be able to take out a 30-50% chunk of his health. [i]Noteworthy:[/i] Your player on sword duty should be adept at using the sword; [i]Bladedancers[/i] still reign supreme as sword-weilders due to their invisibility effects. My preference is still [i]Sunsingers[/i]; simply because [i]Fireborn[/i] is invaluable and a nice crutch to fall back on. Bladedancer strat is to jump up from rock, damage Crota while his shields are down, drop sword as he is about to stand up, melee him while spec’d into [i]Escape Artist[/i], then pick up sword again. From what I’ve read, this allows a player to get 2-3 extra hits on Crota during the second burn phase of a rotation – again, [i]invaluable[/i]. After Crota moves right, keep on top of Boomers and Thrall while waiting for him to move back to middle platform. Try to keep the Swordbearer's health low, while waiting, to increase the likelihood of 2 rotations on the next phase. Once Crota moves back to the middle platform, kill the Swordbearer and wait for the call-out to burn down Crota's shields. Rinse and Repeat once more and Crota should be near 30-40% remaining health. If performed quickly, there should be enough time to get another rotation in before Crota moves to left platform; but don’t do too much damage - as to avoid auto-enrage. Retreat inside crystal room before Crota moves left and prepare for Ogre phase. Players should be on the right stairs now, in a near-mirrored location to the position. Your objective here is to kill the Ogres quickly while avoiding the onslaught of Thrall that will come at you. Kill right tower Boomers and Wizards and survive until Crota moves middle again. While Crota is still on left platform, the insurgence of Thrall will come at you when the Ogres spawn; so, try to use any spare heavy on Ogres to quickly eliminate them - before they or the Thrall can cause a problem. Start on the right Ogre first. After the right Ogre is killed, retreat into the crystal room and back out to left side stairs. [i]Situational:[/i] • If left ogre is still alive, burn him ASAP, as the Swordbearer won’t spawn until he's dead and gone. • If you managed to kill both ogres you're back to phase 1 of the rotation. [b]Kill Phase[/b] Be smart about finishing off Crota's health. Don’t overhype yourself about the kill, and understand that if it's not going to be a 20%-0% phase, it's probably not worth going in for the kill just yet. Wait it out and be patient; you’ll get the kill if everyone executes their roles, as intended. And that's it!! [i]Noteworthy:[/i] Place a Defender Titan's [i]Ward of Dawn[/i], with [i]Blessings of Light[/i], at the top of the stairs. It serves as a wall between you and the Boomers; keeping you out of danger, as well as granting you a constant shield for the ward’s duration. Generate orbs as often as possible. Certain helmets proc a health regen when players pick up an orb. Orbs won’t despawn for a player until the player dies; they’re always useful to have around in the event of a crunch. Wisely manage your available heavy ammo and your synths . If you see 3 heavy ammo packs lying in the center area, be smart about how you get to them; greed can get you killed. Hope this helps some of you prepare for successful completion of Crota’s End, Hard Mode. Thank you all and good luck out there guardians!!! [i]Edit 1:[/i] What worked for me and my fireteam might not necessarily be what works best for you and yours - feel free to modify based on what you feel would work better for you and your team. Share your findings; I'm always open to new ideas! [i]Edit 2:[/i] I would like to take this moment to thank each and every one of you for your unified positivity.

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  • Edited by Vox Mortuis: 1/25/2015 5:17:16 AM
    Spent 3 hours Thursday night trying to beat him the normal mode (standard) way with no luck. Spent 2 hours today trying to beat him the middle window/rush ogres way and got him. Just takes some time to get used to a certain strategy sometimes. Edit: that's with 2 different random groups, don't have a dedicated clan/team.

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    • Killed him in 2 swords as a defender titan using middle ledge strategy and using rock on right to stage off of instead of left. 1 boomer guy, sole job was to stagger- not kill boomers so they wouldn't hit sword bearer. Dragons breath critical for killing sword bearer and hurting crota shield. The no tracking is actual a good thing. Using 3 R1's and a R2 then fleeing with 3 sword uses per sword. Killed him 2x in about 20 mins with this strategy. Heart never beat so fast

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        • @Tuttoal @4601548 @8116738 I don't understand your logic here. I posted this to serve as a guide for my [i]preferred[/i] strat - that has been successfully executed by myself and several others, without issue. You post your middle window videos and think that the video alone can explain how people should best prepare and execute the tactic successfully. Well you're wrong. "Walls of text" - as you put it - are much more detailed than any of your "my-way-is-better" videos. And I find it sad that I have to explain that to you. ie. A movie is not a book. They may sometimes be about the same things, but they in no way share the same level of detail. "Get literate, Bruh'!"

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            • Our group video.

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              • Just watch and learn . The video starts right before ogres spawn Nevermind walls of text

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                • My team was trying a diffrent way and we where struggling on Crota for the longest time we had to have burnt through 200 heavy synths and over 6 hours of wiping and prefecting the meathod and we when we actually beat him I got the titan helm and the shader and I lost my shit...but I'm happy because I have some experience in the hard raid on Crota at least and my team mates got the hand cannon and scout rifle so in the long run it will help me out...hair though I would post this on the fourm

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                  • entire post has been overhauled. hope it's more helpful now

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                  • Im going to try tomorrow but it has to be with randoms as none of my normal group but me are 32. Sounds like it might be hell with randoms though

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                    • Does weapons of light help the swordbearwr do more damage

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                      • Played from 11:00 at night to 6:30 AM when we beat him it was like taking the best shit of my life.

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                        • If anyone on the 360 needs a swordbearer add me I have completed it (shader is on my lock for proof)!! Easy strategy and can knock it off in a matter of half an hour with a team who can listen

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                          • Great info, thanks for this!

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                            • If you don't kill boomers then there will be no wizard, get a hunter in blade dancer to run sword, he runs to the left rock and gives a 3,2,1 countdown. By the time he hits zero he will be invisible and next to crota, the whole team drops crota and just when crotas shield comes up the hunter drops the sword, knifes crota to go invisible and picks the relic back up, hits crota again and then that's a 1/4 - 1/3 of his health gone. Using the centre strategy no boomers will shoot you either so there is no need to touch them. The Titan leaves centre first and drops a weapons of light in the doorway for the rest of the players to come back through and your life is saved. Repeat. Now for ogres, the second Titan on the team should run out and drop a Titan bubble next to the centre but a little to the left (at this time crota will be on the right ready to go to the centre) jump out of the top of the Titan bubble and shoot gjallarhorns and other rockets at the ogres, hard raid teams are never short of either. Once ogres are down crota will be getting ready to run left, let him run left and go back to the centre as if your first two runs were good then he should only be around 1/3 health. Continue the main strategy explained and then if one more run is necessary it will have to be done on right when he runs but he will more then likely auto enrage (he does this when he is one run off dying) don't worry about the oversouls you should down him quick enough and kill him in that last scatter, oversoul will kill you after you've killed crota and there's your rewards!! Good luck guardians!

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                              • It's all about dps and timing that's all everyone needs to know

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                                  • http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/94719725/0/0

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                                  • Just what i was looking for, bless you

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                                    • Good advice

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                                        • Very informative Thank you :0

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                                          • once people start acquiring abyss defiant it could be very useful for boomer and wizard duty as it has disorient wizard perk

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                                            • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twkqZ2mdPPQ Video of how my fire team defeated crota. we had 2 people for sword bearer and the rest on boomers and wizard duty. hope this can help! If you can please leave a like on the video! message GT: eXoTiC x FOX if you have any questions i'll do my best to answer your questions!!

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                                            • A better strategy is to only kill one knight in the tower, save one and the wizard won't spawn. Have one Titan distracting the knight that is left in a blessing of light bubble.

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