Why would anyone need to glitch crota it takes 7 to 10 mins to kill him players that can not figure this out shouldn't be in the raid. there's more vids of people just getting it done as it should be done on youtube and if and people want to say its unfair to point out that others cheating so it will stop there just noobs and should go play something a little less challenging.

The self rez cheese on bridge and crota are lame and I wish they would fix it. People are weak and stupid and will do the cheese because they can. They cheat themselves out of a fun game because they can skip the game and get the reward. I dont want to cheese any of the raid but i dont want to be the wet blanket in my group either. Fix it.

Part 1 (lamps): Honestly, I don't care about this one, it's not like this part usually drops great rewards, and jumping is kind of fun - people have been getting a lot of extra game time out of this just experimenting with different jumps and shortcuts. It gives something for people who can't pull a raid group together on a given week *something* to do. Besides, you can solo this part even without the tricks, it's all about luck and timing. Pay attention to the history of gaming, sometimes there are "exploits" that are worth ignoring because they add to the experience rather than detract from it, and keep people playing, which Destiny needs. I rank this one up there. Part 2 (bridge): Extend the timer that triggers the spawn to 10 seconds. Increase the detection volume so it includes out of map locations (rock climbing alternative exploit for this area). Easy fix, definitely needed. Leave the other mechanics as-is though, doing the bridge crossing as was done in the infamous solo run is fun and challenging (did it last weekend with three people). Part 3 (deathsinger): Obviously kill zones would fix this, but honestly it doesn't matter either way - this stage gives no rewards and is not hard to clear (annoying as hell, but not hard). This goes with so many VoG fixes - don't bother with something trivial unless you plan on fixing the bugs that are preventing legitimate clears first. Part 4 (crota): Reset/check crota's status timer on whatever host is currently in control every few seconds. I don't know why this seems to be tracked on a single client to begin with (that seems to be introducing some lag issues with the group I've played with), but it would take fairly minimal coding to reset this. You may still end up with an extended kneel during the reset. Whatever the fix, this needs to be dealt with. In summary: prioritize the two biggest issues that are true, game-breaking exploits. Those are notably detrimental to the community and reflect poorly on the game. The others don't really matter. But then, [i]focus work on the issues that are interfering with the ability to complete the raid legitimately.[/i] The timing and visibility on Crota's extremely short damage window is poorly considered when playing with intercontinental clients. We have confirmed that different clients are seeing vastly different shield statuses at the same time despite good connections. The vulnerable window should be clearly visible and as accurate as possible to all players - heck, the white-over-yellow shield bar isn't even visible at all to many shade/color-blind players. We have seen Crota swing and kill the sword-holder after he has already begun his crouching animation. Multiple times we've killed the sword bearer and watched the sword disappear through the map. Crota occasionally glitches off his platform, killing people below or through walls. Rockets are sometimes detonating above the arena on landscape that doesn't exist. This fight requires a team that runs like clockwork, but it doesn't help when the mechanics themselves don't. Once again, focus on the issues that really impact the game and players in an honestly negative fashion. Don't repeat the fiasco that was the VoG "fixes".

Really? So jumping on stuff is illegal now? Its strategy. I dont even care about the cheesing but jumping on a rock is not cheesing. Thats like saying in call of duty or battlefield or any other game you cant get on top of a building to kill people. Just no.