ive only done the cheese once to get my final character to defeat crota but ive completed it 5 times properly in two weeks. what you forget is not everyone is as good as some people and your saying that they shouldnt do the raid at all? because they arent as good? then whats the point in anyone but the best playing the game? if you dont want to glitch crota then dont but why stop less able gamers from getting the drops because you think its unfair?? i think it is totally ok for parts to be glitched i would quite happily take 5 crotas end noobs through the raid and show them how to do it properly. in fact i have done but if im left with a dilema off giving up on them at crota so they get disappointed and dont get to complete it or cheesing it so they get to complete it and make them happy i would choose to cheese it every time. unfortunately it seems like you think you are better than the less able gamers and dont wish to help which i think youll find is nothing like what bungie want. they want people to band together have fun and a laugh. so good sir i bid you a good day and hope you will find it in your heart to glitch crota for some less able gamers before they patch it p.s. i know my spelling and grammar is more than likely terrible