Wonder what assholes think that nothing needs to be fixed

yep, this new grind system with all the new currencies and advanced requirements is ridiculous. I try to enjoy the ride and not the destination but this was a brutally bad mistake. But besides the new grind fest, I like TDB new missions, strikes, raid and multiplayer maps.

The results are not surprising to me. Polygon nailed it, bungie has replaced fun with grind. I don't mind the price tag on games or dlc, but the amount of content with both the base game and dlc are severely lacking. The whole RNG with the grind system adds countless hours of boring repetitive gameplay. I enjoy and hate destiny and after the dark below launched I've been reluctant to play do to the facts polygon stated. I worked hard to upgrade quite a few exotics and reach 30 on 2 characters for what? I don't understand what's so hard to add a few new nodes to the upgrade tree of the exotic versus making me wipe my progress and start over. To put things simple I am a very disappointed fan of the destiny project and will no longer fund this business with my dollars.

Who cares what they say. If you enjoy the game play it. If you don't enjoy the game then why are you still playing.

Umm. He said "If Bungie can acknowledge it's Mistakes" Yah about that...... pretty sure they plan out how they do these things so to them it wouldn't be a mistake. It's not like one dude implemented all this and no one else knew about it. Bottom line. Take it for what it is. Move on if it pisses you off that much. Life is short. I play it b/c I'm casual and don't have that much vested in the game. I play a lot but could care less. Honestly If I wouldn't have already paid for the DLCs, I wouldn't be playing this game anymore. The Business model behind this game is a joke. Is has completely destroyed what could have been an epic adventure.

Personally the max light level per item should have stayed at 30. The character level should have gone from 20 to 22 thus increasing the combined light level of light level 30 gear to 32. This would make any gear gained before TDB came out still relevant. Previous raid gear wouldn't be obsolete every time a new dlc drops. There would be no need for gear from vendors with more light, we would get gear because of different perks or looks and we could finally have some actual customisation of gear look instead of choosing the gear with the highest light level. There would still be light level decrease when you equip new gear so you would still have to max out the perk tree, but the amount of perk combinations would increase with every DLC because of new gear and weapons. More combinations means more customisation. Players (and people in general) love, love, love to customise and this would make the grind less of a chore.

People keep looking at the negative of Destiny only. I call bullshit on that. I play atleast once a day, for a couple hours. Have 3 characters, one my primary, the others just to have and play. This article is completely biased. A true "hardcore" gamer is always looking for the next challenge. A true "hardcore" gamer won't really give a damn to go hunt new shit while grinding. World of Warcraft has done this. A ton of other RPGs have done this. A new expansion comes out, all of the old stuff won't be up to par with the new stuff, it's that simple. No one complains when those games do it, but when a console shooter RPG in a "shared world" that is overly unique does it, everyone loses their damn mind. New expansions look to be coming every 3 months. A new full game possible every 2-3 years. Every expansion, old gear will be outdated, just like in EVERY OTHER RPG WITH AN ONLINE WORLD. I do not agree with this article and see it as completely biased. I'm a "casual hardcore" gamer. I've played Xbox for years, had my account for Jan '08, have just recently cleared 100k gamerscore, and only get a few hours a day sometimes to play and I still try to do everything in the game. And when a new expansion comes out, I try to do everything and get everything in it, even though some days I just don't care to play at all. There is good in Destiny, but no one wants to point that out, they just keep pointing out all of the bad then trash talk Bungie. How about you sorry lot bashing this game go try and get a 200+ person team and build a giant game and see just how hard it is. And how hard it is to please every single person (just a hint, that last part is impossible). I love Destiny. I see its faults and acknowledge them, but I don't bash and complain like most do. I give proper, RESPECTFUL feedback on where improvement could be and then go about my day enjoying life. The exotic upgrades? This is how you look at it. You buy a small bird house. It requires being built. You build it. Now a few months later, the same birdhouse releases, but it has a slightly sturdier build to it. Do you buy it because it is better for your bird? If you love your bird enough, then yes, you do. You have to build it again, start from the beginning. And you wouldn't have a problem with that, would you? No, because you love that damn bird. Same with Destiny's exotics. Pick what you use (love) most, then upgrade. You have to start from scratch, but it'll be a better build when you're done. Too many people have become too "entitled" to the "easy life" getting rewarded for nothing. -blam!-ing grow up. Seriously. You have to work for what you want. Atleast a few people understand that this day and age.