Man it really is disappointing on how ridiculously easy and cheesy this Crota Raid is! 1st I have seen videos on how to Solo the first part of the raid with a Hunter. Second I see if a warlock dies on the spire while its forming he can just self revive once the bride is fully formed and just run across.
3rd I saw you can solo the Bridge with a warlock. Then what made it worse you can solo the bridge with anybody. 4th it's the chest after the bridge as long as you have somebody in the room and somebody in the respawn area you can go down your friends list and invite them all in to get the chest!
The only part that take some skill really and some work is the Deathsinger part!
BUT GUESS WHAT? You don't get any loot so you know what we do? SKIP and go to Crota.
Ok Crota is the boss and is suppose to be hard but we beat him in 6 minutes!
YES 6 minutes!!!!!!!! Come on Bungie I'm challenging you to step it up! Haven't you learned from the The Vault of Glass. You can literally beat this Raid in 20 minutes ! The nightfall was harder then the raid!
Who else feels the same? Or what's your opinion!
#Bump please!
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VoG is better than CE
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I'm reporting you for being a god damn Fagmatron
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There is always gonna be bugs in things when they first come out and you don't have to cheat people choose to. I fine the raid pretty fun stop being such a downer, there will probably be updates to it in January and it'll be way harder on hard
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I got the entire raid down and it's easy, but every group I try to play with can't get Crota down and they all rage quit -_-
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Edited by errdayimshuffln: 12/15/2014 4:40:18 AMYou dummies! Normal [b]SHOULD[/b] be easy and fast for those that know what they are doing. Its the hard raid that should be difficult. As far as difficulty goes, bungie did the right thing. Crotas end is hard the first couple of times with unleveled characters...so everyone gets a fun, challenging and lengthy experience and yet, after you do it a few times and your characters climb up in level, the raid becomes much easier and most importantly, [b][i]faster[/i][/b]! That way, repeating the raid the umpteenth time isn't such a grinding, dreaded time-waster. Again, its a different story with hard mode.
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Can't really call the hunter invis a cheese. There isn't a glitch he using or anything. That's his ability to go invisible.
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Lol first its easy mode second when hard hits and these are fixed all we will see is the raid is to dam hard posts
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Sorry, I'm not following here. What's Bungie & what's Crota?
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I feel that they held back the hard mode so idiots would look for cheesy ways to beat this raid that, let's be honest, isn't hard to do legit so bungie can patch those areas and then the idiots that didn't take the time to learn the correct way to do it will hve no clue and cry bloody murder when the hard raid does become available just like when they patched atheon and the templar.
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Soloing the beginning is easy. The hard part is getting your whole team through. No Guardian left behind.
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I like it. Soloable up to Crota with any character. I'll take my single player PvE over grouping with "try hards" and 14 year olds. And no, I have no desire to clan up for a video game.
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There is really nothing they can do to make it harder that would not just be cheap and piss people off. The only reason it's even as hard as it is, is because enemies are lvl 32 at one point. If they were all lvl 30-31 then it would not be as difficult. The raid has no maze or jumping area like VoG had, it's just kill this, kill that. No depth or intelligence in it's design, it's just a standard "enemies are bullet sponge" difficulty types.
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They are going to fûck everyone up, once hard mode comes out lol they're probably well aware of all of the cheeses right now, and might be making some big changes for the hard raid, so that nothing can be cheesed, or maybe I'm just dreaming lol
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Why do you think they are leaving the hard raid till new year for? Learn from mistakes take in all these posts patch there mistakes and release the full version hard mode....
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you cant beat the raid in 20 minutes until someone has made a post saying they have because ive seen NO post saying "beat crotas end in 20 minutes, AMA"
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You should all ready know that bungie is gonna patch most of these things and add a few to make the raid harder. It's just the first week. Watch what they have in store in the next update
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I am actually pretty certain the VoG was their most 'new' and hard worked on thing in the original package. That's what I already thought before the dlc dropped. They left this in and took out everything else because Activision wanted it for money reasons. They wanted the initial game to have something amazing. They managed to pretty much do that. I still enjoy VoG a lot. The whole Crota raid does feel like something you're supposed to do quickly. As when you take too long, you'll get overrun or something like that.
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If it's so easy I would love some help doing it. I'm level 31 and haven't even tried the new raid yet. Anyone wanna pop my Crota cherry please add me PSN: gongshowdilly
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Bungie forgets to consider people will use mechanics in unintended ways which makes further testing required, but in all seriousness its really like a 6 player strike not so much a challenging raid. Day 1 clears got the challenge out of it everyone else just rode the coattails of people who spent hours figuring shit out.
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I agree it is to easy
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OP is an idiot. +20 Scrub Salts
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Why do you think the hard raid is coming out a month later?? So they can fix all the cheesing areas and actually make it hard.
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Hard raid is coming soon
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I think we should get loot from the deathsinger part, we got drops from the gatekeepers on vog and that's easier than deathsinger imo.
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Wait. The raid is too easy cause you watched videos days after it's release on how to cheese it and then out it all together to estimate your times run? Oh yes, you did SO much work into figuring it out on your own. And the legit way. You spent a whole day dedicated to learning and beating the raid like world first did. You are a good! I applaud you! "Golf clap" STFU you scrub. You shouldn't be allowed on the forums. No game is without it's flaws. Also, Bungie has already showed it's game testers suck balls. That's how they don't discover the true glitches. But they also don't have millions of people testing. Once they find out about it, they work to fix it. But it all takes time as they have so much to work on. -blam!- your kid is so pathetic it's sickening. You need to be banned from these forums for showing your stupidity. Do the raids day one and see how far you get you shit face little worm. I'm surprised you even know how to get past the first lamp. Oh wait, you youtube it. Shit stain -blam!- nugget OP. [spoiler]OP is a -blam!-tard[/spoiler]
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Dude keyword...videos. if the game started with Crotas End it would be just like VoG.