Ight check this out guys - I write to you on the behalf of our entire clan that has questions about the raid loot system ..! I have ran the raid 10+ times and have 20+ clan members that have similar stats. When you run through and complete the raid sometimes the loot system drops good stuff and then there’s most of the time; where it drops nothing or gives everything to a single player (leaving others in the bitter cold). - we have seen this as a group several times where one player receieves the bulk of rewards for the teams hard work - what's up w/ that anyway ..? I thought the more times you ran the raid the better stuff you got not to mention the duplicate drops we constantly get jeezle; come on guys why do I need the same stuff over and over when I still do not have everything for level 30 yet ..? Sure I appreciate the ability to shard and energy out things but that’s what dailies, and strikes are for right – why do I play the raid to get the same amount of ascendant materials I can get in a few days of regular play .. huh ..? I love completing the raid and playing w/ my buds (we tear it up ..!) but make it worth our time, I have a career, family, and things to do - MAKE IT WORTH OUR TIME ..! I alone put 90 dollars into this game / DLC and if you haven’t noticed the economy isn't that great ... where’s our bang for our BUCK ..! Example (last night - 10/22/14 VOG) We have a player (newer clan member) that completed the raid for the second or third time the other night and now has everything to be level 30 (full gear, several weapons) which is badass for him - way to go but … he has all raid gear (ALL OF IT ..!). He isn’t the MVP of the raid and still got all of this dropped to him from the raid, he plays well and consistent but is still learning the mechanics. On the other hand, looking at my situation that reflects several of my clan mates (equaled to their frustration), I have double the time spent in the game (200 hrs +) than the new member and have more raid completions by 7 or better and have less gear and weapons. Bungie you got some splaining to do to your players ..!