Every level 30 was a 29 at one point. I just want to see how many level 30s actually are in the hypocrite group. Please only 30s answer as this is a genuine curiosity. Ever level 30 had to be a 29 on a hard raid at one point and all of the 30s that say 29s can't hard raid are contradicting themselves in that they too were once 29s hard raiding. Before anyone attacks me for being 29, I do not care. I have no real desire to sink what little time I have into a hard raid attempt at the moment.
Edit: I apparently made an erroneous statement. I thought you needed the hard raid gear for 30 , with one exotic if you so choose, and that the gear could [i]rarely[/i] drop in normal. I apologize. Still I am seeing plenty of evidence that 29s can hard raid.
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Did a full vog hard run last night with a group with 5 29's. Its rough but very doable
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I never did hard mode until i hit 30. Was 29 for 2 seconds
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Lvl 29s can hard raid but it makes it harder. Regardless of skill, the VoG glitches and a 30 can deal with those glitches a bit better because they take less damage. For example; Praetorian regains health and melees you an extra time, a 30 will be able to withstand that attack, a 29 will die. Btw a lot of 30s were 30 for their first hard raid. I was. I had every piece but the helmet, which I replaced with an exotic.
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Its kind of a give and take, 29s can do it, as long as they have 2 or 3 30s... but at that point its not just 29, so they can but cant
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Edited by Shwartznwalder: 11/27/2014 12:04:17 AMTechnically you can get level 30 without hard raid and some people are lucky enough to skip 29. That being said, I've done more hard raids with full groups of 29's than groups with even a single 30. 29's can definitely do the hard raid. People who say you have to have 30's are just doing something wrong.