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I wonder who these people are that never had to go through hard mode sub 30? Hmmmmmm Seems to me at some point you uber 30s were either carried through or shocker did it at 29. Get over yourself
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ABANDON SHIP!
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Too much negativity for you ?
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Bump so the 30 elitist keeps getting notifications
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My group managed to do the whole raid on hard with only 1 lvl 30, 3 lvl 29 and two lvl 28. If you are not good enough to do the raid with one or two 29's might I suggest a change in your id.
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You don't need all 30s to complete hard raid. Allowing 2 29s makes no real difference. I've just hit 30 with my Titan and I'll be specifically looking to get a couple of 29s involved as people helped me out when I was 29. We have all been level 29 and done the raid!!!
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How did you get to 30? Were you carried by 30s or did you somehow manage to get the gear despite doing 20% less damage? My point is it's silly for all these people that keep hating on 29s.
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If 30s need to be with all 30s then they're the ones being carried.
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Edited by KRUPTxINDKINGZ: 11/26/2014 6:28:26 PMI did the HARD raid with 5 29s and 1 30. So therefore you must suck! :)
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I was carrying 30s through hard when i was 29. A fully upgraded Icebreaker and fully upgraded Atheon's Epilogue in the skilled hands of a level 29 is doing more damage than a level 30 with any other weapons.
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There's enough 29's that are better than a lot of 30's, they just don't have the right gear yet. I'm gonna laugh my ass off at the lvl 30 elitists that will wipe constantly with the new moon raid in 3 weeks.
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Yeah, but I have a maxed Gjallarhorn! Sup now!
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Not all requests for 30 are due to 30s being elitists. Sometimes a group already has 3-4 29s and people need a couple 30s to round out the group. If somebody is specifically looking for 30s and you are a 29, then just move along.
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You're an idiot
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Edited by ThisMahSwamp: 11/26/2014 6:11:10 PMSometimes, I purposefully switch some gear around to lower myself to lvl29 just for people like you. I will take a 5 man team of 29s ANY DAY over a 5 man team of 30s who won't even pick up the relic when I am left outside holding a gate open. I have run into way too many all 30 teams that just absolutely fumble on the Gatekeeper and Atheon, whereas I have been in numerous 29 groups that easy mode the entire raid. The damage mitigation argument is an absolute copout, and you should know this.
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I've only once had to carry a 29 through HM. My usual group was filled with 29's before the IB, and they could run HM in their sleep.
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Can we just agree that some 29s can be better than 30s even after the 20% damage reduction?
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I think you are full of it or just have had bad groups. Last time I ran HM it was the 30's who were the ones having issues so carrying 29s is not always the case. Kwesdog
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Edited by ZEE THE CEO: 11/26/2014 6:36:04 PMIf a person has to do hard with six 30's, they may not be that good. There are MANY 30's who suck and don't even know how to use the relic. Don't forget where you came from. You were once 29. If you're 30, then take 1-2 29's with you. A skilled one can carry their weight. I have done it. Just helped a guy get his last piece of armor last night. He will now be 30. I also have a 29 warlock and played with some 30's the other day. They always died before I did. I know how to play skillfully. It's not just about light level. Plus, with self-resurrection, I was better than a 30 in some respects.
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I'm 28 and I love to be carried. What time should I hop in?
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My favorite is when they say "I'm level 29.5". Lol as if that makes any difference.
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I did the raid on hard when my warlock was a 28 and did fine( didn't have fireborn either). There are skilled 29's out there that do better than some 30's I see it every week. You just got to find them lol
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I rarely ran with 30s when i was a 29 and it took us 1.5 - 2.5 hours maximum to complete the hard mode raid.
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Edited by loboloco: 11/26/2014 6:40:39 PMInorite? That's why I'm clamoring to get to level 30 myself so that I can go from a casual who's mistakenly regarded Destiny as a game made for enjoyment to an Elite MLG Player who isn't happy unless he isn't happy. Seriously, it's an even split between 30's and Nerf-herders as far as complaining goes on this site. Although both are equally amusing to read.
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If a level 29 breaks your fire team the. Your fire team wasn't worth much to begin with.