I'm just wondering about how things play out code-wise in terms of how VOG loot drops are factored. Case Scenario: Myself and others in our Prime Squad feel we are VOG Veterans. 20+ completions each - over 3 and sometimes 4 Guardians each (Some of us - like myself - made a sacrifice offering of my Hunter to please RNGeezus so that I could get my warlock Boots to hit 30 around the 15th full completion....and it actually worked!) We deal with every manner of idiocy from ourselves.....and bugs from the game....to strive to do 3 FULL completions every week - on every Guardian we have on Hard mode for the Double Drops. That being said..... even after all of that...... Some of us are still waiting on one Raid Piece to hit 30.....on our Original Guardian. My Loot drops over [b]4 Guardians[/b] including my sharded Hunter - and on XB1 (although I have at least 6 or 7 full runs on my titan - stats show only one completion....and yes I know you guys are working on this.) [b]Weapons:[/b] [b] 7[/b] Revenges [b]4 [/b]Fate-Bringers (I do love this one btw) [b]6 or 7[/b] Verdicts. 1 Timepiece. 1 Vengence. [i][b]1 Mida[/b] (Last night on my Primary Warlock...most Raid Experience....even though I already had one, and Xur has it today for sell.[/i] [b]Gear Drops:[/b] 2 full sets of Warlock Gear. (Blue Chest-piece on both...on HARD....whats up with the Tan One??? Is that even a real piece of gear or is it PSN only?) 1 Titan Gloves. 1 Titan Helm. 1 Titan Boots. 5 Aspects of Glass. 3 other glass Ships from Normal. 5 Timebreakers. Still need Chest Piece for Titan. [b] NEVER[/b] got any gear on my Hunter after 4-5 FULL Normal Runs. That's why it got Sacrificed. Never made the cut for HARD. Still Need VEX / Epilogue / Foil / Vision in terms of Weapons. Is there SOMETHING that we are missing - that helps do anything to give you a better chance of getting gear you DON'T have? I have argued this topic with our group many times....and the opinion is split down the middle. I think that staying in the Raid from start to finish....fully leveled gear....and weapons.....no KTO's...no back outs....no disconnects....same squad, same day, same time.....does or should WARRANT a better % drop for gear you don't have...or at least for HIGHER LEVEL gear....like Vex, Foil, etc.... So my question is......does it? Does the crew that comes in on a Save Point and Cheeses Atheon have the same chance at a Gear Drop, as the Squad that battled from start to finish.....in one sitting....no cheesing on hard? Is there anything that helps trigger a better chance of drop rate for missing gear?