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Edited by Osiris: 3/18/2015 1:38:30 PM
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we are the darkness we fear

Ok, so I have been chewing on this idea for a while now. And I am starting to become convinced that this is where bungie is going with the story, I'll site as much as I can, and provide all of the evidence I can think of. And anyone who has any other theories or reasoning etc. please provide it below. We came into the game, automatically assuming we were the "good guys" however, the evidence that suggests that we are the evil is very compelling. If you decide not to read this all, at the very least, go to the end of the post and read the grimoire card for the black garden. Let's start with the basics: 1. We are an undead army... Seriously, we are revived corpses fighting slaughtering enemies for reasons unknown to us... Like I could stop right here and have a good argument, yet I will continue 2. Look at our classes. Hunter, a trained killer. Warlock, the term often used for an evil version of a wizard. And Titan, the evil Giants in greek mythology. While our enemies hold titles of things not so bad. Captain, usually an honored military position. Wizard, usually seen as a good magic user. phalanx, a respected greek military structure/tactic. Disclaimer: I recognize some enemies are things like "dreg" or "goblin" which have negative associations. 3. Our traveler.... Our "light bringer"... What do we know about him? He came to earth, and tempted us with knowledge and powers.... Sounds a lot like lucifer tempting Adam with the apple. Oh yeah and to stick the nail in the coffin, do you know what the original translation of "lucifer" is? Light bringer!!!!!!! The traveler is freaking satan!!!!! 4. I won't even explain this one, it's the grimoire card for the legend of the black garden, just read, get chills, the agree with this post below: At the end of the path grew a flower in the shape of a Ghost. I reached out to pluck it and it cut me with a thorn. I bled and the blood was Light. The Ghost said to me: You are a dead thing made by a dead power in the shape of the dead. All you will ever do is kill. You do not belong here. This is a place of life. The Traveler is life, I said. You are a creature of Darkness. You seek to deceive me. But I looked behind me, down the long slope where the blossoms tumbled in the warm wind and the great trees wept sap like blood or wine, and I felt doubt. -Grimoire: Legend: The Black Garden Oh yeah, and added story twist, that A-hole queens brother... Well he's probably good, he knows what we are, and he wants us dead and to save the black garden, however his sister has him restrained. But if that is his true motive, he's the good guy in the story. Edit: This post recently necro'd, which is awesome. If you like what you read, I strongly encourage you follow the link below. http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85276945/0/0

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  • My theory is as follows: The traveler came to humanity in order to help us and itself to survive. Originally it brought the vex which helped terraformed the nearby planets to sustain human life as we were a dying race. After human lifespan increases to 300 years, the golden age begins. As stated in grimoir the darkness were hunting the traveler. As the darkness drew closer. It began corrupting the vex minds. Soon the vex worshipped the black gardens heart as a leader of power. And fought for the cause of the darkness. The traveler then gave us it's light. Resurrecting the dead and making the guardians in a last ditch effort to survive. And that's where we are now. My guess is the traveler gave the fallen power. They began craving it and attempted to Crack open th traveler to find out what was inside. Hence the Crack in the bottom of the traveler. That's the entire reason the fallen are after the traveler. As for the hive, they are the darkness. They seek to consume and destroy anything and everything. The cabal are just your everyday space pirates that we were lucky enough to come across. And the vex are the corrupted saviors of our race. The fallen theory also has evidence of being true. When you kill a fallen with a precision kill. It isn't their spirit escaping, it's the travelers light returning to the traveler.

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    • Dude, I'm on bored.

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    • In before rework of destiny story. Now we are killing them in self-defense.

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    • Cue x-files theme music Good theory probably just decrypted the entire story lol.

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    • ... YOU MIND READER!!!

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    • Bump

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      • Half life 3 confirmed

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        • Edited by Devasstator: 6/30/2015 4:43:24 PM
          Would probably help if Bungie was half competent at telling a story people actually give a shit about! Currently there is no reason to give a shit about anything in this mindless shooting gallery.

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        • That "therory" doesn't seem like one it rather seems like a fact now. But well let's see what happens in Destiny 2

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        • Correction: Lucifer didn't temp anyone but himself. The angel Samael is believed to be the serpent. Anyway, you have the general idea of the original story right. The Traveler is evil and the black garden was supposed to be its heart. Atheon was actually not "bad" and the Vex are us, if I remember right. Just down the line having consumed ourselves with the desire for everything we gave up our humanity. Atheon was not with the rest and didn't see the Traveler as a god. The Fallen were old worshipers of the Traveler but it left them and the "fell". It destroyed their civilization. There's more but they lost the original writer and completely changed the story dynamic.

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        • I think TTK completely dismissed your theory.

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          • Notice that the traveller is scarred and battered ok it's underside. If it was protecting us from an outside force it doesn't make much sense for that damage to be underneath it. My guess is we tried to nuke it or something. Or the darkness could've been on earth in a more physical form and I'm completely wrong haha

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            • Makes sense seeing as half the story was meant to be this. Outing the Traveler and the Speaker with "Crow", her brother. Which had a full cutscene at one point... But still.

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              • The traveler is a she....

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                • I disagree. I decided to try to talk to some fallen the other day, I just walked my character up and waved to them. They did not want to talk, and they instead started shooting me. Can they really be the light if they tried to shoot me when I was just trying to learn more? Edit: Tried with vex, fallen and cabal. None of my advances worked and they continued to shoot me. I tried to meet with Crota and he just killed me right away. I will try to make contact with Atheon soon, maybe he will have some answers.

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                  • Hold up

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                  • And then, fast forward, the traveler ends up teaching the humans so much, that we learn how to transcend time, but to do so, we must abandon our biological bodies. However, we ultimately realize how much this destroys our species and deteriorates our souls, and we see what the traveler really is. So we travel back into time to destroy the traveler before it is revived, as..... The vex!

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                    • I disagree

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                    • I've known since the beginning that the Speaker is an evil bastard. Plus he says "These things will help you Guardian" dude you sell marks and emblems, the most useless obtainables in the game! Apparently obtainables isn't a word... Well I like it so I'm frikin' using it.

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                    • The traveler isn't a sphere... [i]it's a pyramid[/i] [spoiler][i]coincidence? I think illuminati.[/i][/spoiler]

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                      • Do you think the Exo Stranger is trying to get us to fight against the speaker and the other "mindless" guardians??

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                      • Just as one person once said: "The story is written by the victors"

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                      • Duuuuuuuuuuuuuude

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                      • Edited by Fatgull: 6/22/2015 4:33:22 AM
                        The only reason we "just wake up and start killing things without questioning anything" is Bungies fault. I think all races had their own opening zone, and the one we got now is for the exo. Also, whats up with the Hive? Are they cuddly teddy bears but the Traveler has us on some hallucinogenic drugs? Those guys are the baddies, not us.

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                        • Hive: evil for sure. (I mean, do I even need to go on?) Fallen: good. (Like humans there will always be evil people, and tyrants, but not inherently evil) Vex: can you even call a hive-mind collective evil? They are just fulfilling some spooky something or other that benefits themselves. (Spooky) Cabal: just a bunch of normal military dudes. (Romans) I think that what you are talking about is [i]definitely [i] what the original storyline was going to be. I wouldn't be surprised if this is still the case.

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                        • What story

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