Instead of being angry or jealous of people who "Cheese" Atheon, or any other part of the game, you should be praising the people who figured it out. It takes a lot of planning, exploration, time and many deaths to figure it out. This is called tactics, and have been used for thousands of year to win wars and everyday life. It becomes trivialized in today's day and age because of the wide use of video capture and social media, so it seems simple...but we overlook the work it took to get to that point. Bungie Developers have stated time and time again to explore their world and push the boundaries of the game. We have done that and they have changed their vision. There is nothing wrong with that from either perspective. It's the game developers job to make the game challenging and fun. It's our right to figure out the nuances and use them to our advantage. That is how the world works. You shouldn't be ridiculed for thinking outside the norm. You can be angry at people for using an apparent "Easy" way to do something, but you do it in everyday life. One-hundred and fifty years ago people rode horses and trains for transportation, today it's cars and planes. One-hundred years ago, we cooked everything in giant cast iron ovens. Today we have microwaves and convection ovens because people thought outside the norm. Twenty-five years ago we carries around boxes of records, taps and CD's for our music(Or god forbid, musical instruments). Today we carry around thousands of songs and videos on devices the size of a wallet. If you watched a video, read a topic or had someone help you with the raid; you are doing the same thing as everyone else... they are just doing it a different way than what you choose. Doesn't make it less right or wrong. There once was a time where people were praised for figuring out a smarter more efficient way of doing things, even in video games. So if you choose to do Atheon head on or the "Cheesy" way, as long as you are having fun, what difference does it make? It doesn't. Because history has shown that people will always go for the smarter and easier method if one exists. It just boils down to choice. Edit1: Got a lot of likes to the post, so I posted it [url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/75751081/0/0]Here[/url]