So for many of us who want crucible marks but do not enjoy the ridiculous grind of the crucible are sentenced to a lifetime of farming spinmetal, relic iron, helium filaments, and spirit bloom???? come on now! vanguard marks are a cake walk and can max out in a day, and atleast offer a wide variety of things to do to earn them, ie many different strikes or public events that keep your attention. I want to enjoy the game and not spends hours upon hours running in circles for materials. It is absolutely ridiculous. not to mention with a win in crucible you only get 3, that's a disaster. I don't know what the answer for this issue looks like but at minimum change the award for a win to 5 and a loss to 3. I can handle that. doing the math here with a 60% win rate and earning 5 for each match and 3 for the losses you would have to play 25 matchs. that's respectable. 60% win rate earning a measly 3 and earn 2 for the losses that's 40 matchs!!! that's a difference of 15 matchs and running 15 mins a piece...bungie I would not get that nearly 4 hours of my life back!!! aint nobody got time for dat. Again I may not have the answer but like all the fellow guardians I can find the problems :):):) Thanks! EDIT: appreciate all kinds of feedback guardians and hope the powers that be read the post and it gets some traction to help improve the Destiny experience for all!!!