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10/16/2014 12:41:07 AM
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Loosing faith in Destiny and Bungie? Watch this video.

[b]NOTE: HUGE WALL OF TEXT[/b] [quote]Become Legend. Destiny is a next generation first person shooter, with rich cinematic storytelling set in huge worlds to explore. Create and customise your Guardian. Defeat your enemies. Become Legend in intense cooperative, competitive, and innovative gameplay modes.[/quote] That is the official description of Destiny straight from the back of the games case. A lot of the community are deeply disappointed with Destiny as what we were told we were getting when we pre-orderd is actually quite different from the game that we actually received. However are you able to put everything aside and still support Bungie after all they have been through? Watching O Brave New World, released in 2011, may rebuild your trust in Bungie and Destiny. I too was really shocked at the quality of the game that came through my letter box with Bungie's logo stamped all over it.. As soon I got back from work I rushed upstairs to my bedroom, broke the Xbox seal on the case and shoved my copy of Destiny into the disc tray. As I gathered, Destiny needed to be installed onto my console so I had some dinner and milled around on the Forums. The music was awesome and was just like the clips that we had heard throughout the development, it was exciting and I just couldn't wait. As soon as it was installed I went straight to the Story Mode and watched with the intro with intent. After seeing the Fallen for the first time in game and knowing they were right behind me when you're first revived I was suddenly in a state franticly running to wall in the first mission hoping I wasn't going to be cut down. Once I made it to the wall with my ghost telling me that we were in the fallen territory I kept looking all around the wall corridors, listening to sounds and echoes, looking at the rich detail and amazing lighting. When I reached the main wall interior, which was dark and full of creepy and terrifying sounds, I was amazing at the sight of this huge and never ending wall once the lights were turned on. The colours, the graphics, the music, it was just awesome. Before I could admire the view properly I was rushed to pick up an old gun lying next to a box. I got it and headed for the next corridor. As I turned the next corner these reddish orange beams were blocking the path. I had to dodge and crawl past them whilst on the run. There I was with more enemies creeping out of gaps in the walls and dropping down from holes in the ceiling - it was fantastic and just how I imagined Destiny would be. Sadly though I began to realise after playing the game more and more that the first mission is actually the best mission in the game. It has so much power and emotion, so many surprises and so much graphical detail. If you go back and really study and compare the first section with the rest of the maps in the game you'll see what i'm talking about. I did find out after making another class however, that there are no Fallen chasing you at the start and that you can stand outside of the wall for ever without anything happening. For a while I was Happy with Destiny. It was okay, it kept me entertained and I was still unlocking new stuff for my character and still exploring these 'huge open worlds'. After a week I'd finished almost everything and was left feeling very frustrated with my £50 game. I just could not stop wondering where over much more than 4 years of Development went for this game? We were told time and time again that there would be; [i]- Huge and new open worlds to explore[/i] All we get are copy and paste caves, buildings that most of which we can't explore much, big rocks/hills dotted around and long empty corridors to connect each small area up with. [i]- An epic action adventure with rich cinematic storytelling where you unravel the mysteries of our universe and reclaim what we lost at the fall of our Golden Age.[/i] There is no story, we don't really learn a lot from the game on the disc and we certainly never solve any mysteries. It's just defend here, shoot that. [i]- You are a Guardian of the last safe city on Earth, able to wield some of the Traveler's incredible power.[/i] What gets me more is the fact that we can't even explore any part of the last city considering that we're it's guardians. [i]- You’ll need to push your wits and skills to their limits in order to survive battles in which victory is anything but assured.[/i] Really all you need is lot's of ammo. The only time i've ever used my wits and skills is in the Vault of Glass. Even then when using our wits around the map Bungie have said no, you can't do that and patched it. I am and have been a huge fan of Bungie and Destiny. I left the community for a while for certain reasons, one being this awful mess of a site update. I returned because I somehow was still in love with Bungie and Destiny. I really wanted the game to succeed and for it to become legend. Playing it and realising Bungie could have created something so much better really breaks my heart. Looking at how it took a small team at Bungie to create Halo 3: ODST a year to make and comparing it to Destiny is just mind-blowing. Okay so Destiny was built from scratch but how could it have taken over 4 years? Something went insanely wrong because this game does not feel like a Bungie game. I have yet to feel the passion and soul of Bungie in Destiny unlike in it's previous games. It feels like over half of the game was cut out of the main game, put aside and cut up further then re-branded as 'DLC' and 'Extra Content'. As I said in the title of this thread, if you're loosing faith in Destiny and Bungie then [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtG6--4r_qk]watch this video[/url]. I did today, I stayed up til 1am watching the video and typing up this thread. The video filled me confidence, trust and faith because we all know Bungie has gone through plenty of difficult times. They do listen to and love their huge and diverse community. I really really want these next 10 years to be a hell of a ride, and as with most rides we always start at the bottom and work our way up to the top. I'm not going to judge anymore. I'm not going insult Bungie, hurl abuse or tear up the forums. I'm going to sit here and give my support to my favourite game creator and give them a chance. I've had my say, to which i'm sure will be buried away under the hundreds of other threads being posting in the Destiny forum everyday. I'm going to end and just ask everyone to watch, or listen to the video i've posted because it may just changed your attitude or opinion on either Bungie or Destiny.
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  • Edited by Gunship: 10/18/2014 4:43:02 AM
    I've been a bungie fan since Marathon. I think that most of us here have to one degree or another really believed in who this company was. That's why we believed them when they told us what this game would be. The first mission was the best of them. Seeing another video (sorry no link) I saw some of what was cut from the first encounter even and its very sad. Peter Dinklage was kind of funny as he recedes off into the darkness talking about rubbing sticks together to make light. I have the Marathon Trology Boxed set sitting in my book case next to the works of Carl Sagan, Tolkien and J. K. Rowling. That's what this company meant to me before the Release. I waited and extoled the virtues of this game to my daughter for so long before it came out. I love who Bungie used to be - I just can't see how those people let this game get released in this condition. I have probably played Destiney over 100 hours. But mostly ive spent that time doing what I did in the demo, and the DEMO WAS MORE FUN. I HATE the bullet sponge bosses How is fighting them ANY FUN AT ALL? The story needed to be brought into the game. Not put on trading cards. Overall the problem is this: I'm just not enjoying the game, not even when I solo a boss or work with a good fireteam to beat a strike. The dificaluty and pace are too high for me to enjoy what im doing. I just don't see how they can fix this. They wont even admit they butchered the crap out of it. And in order to reflow the story and put back the content that should have been there to begin with, they would have to admit they sold us in complete crap slapped together.

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    • You are the biggest douchebag and Muppet of all time. I am coming out of face, but you asked for it. Yes, I forensically analyzed everything. Watched body language and listened in great detail. Then I read what you wrote. My first impression is you are literally trying to sway people away from this game. You have nothing that benefits you in any way possible for you to educate and advise people to stop playing this game. You have nothing to gain by doing so. You must be someone who enjoys misery because you are looking for company. I can not fathom why someone who has NOTHING TO GAIN create a post like this. I'm trying to envision the type of person who you are. I know 2 things so far. You don't like destiny, you outright slandered them as a company and you got your money back from buying this game in your jolly good UK. First I am going to help you. Then I'm going to describe how if someone does watch that video.. You have done bungie the best thing you could have done. Lets start with me helping you. Take the money you got from this game that has ruined your life beyond recognition and buy a bicycle. With that bike, adopt a cat. So now you have transportation and companionship. Now we use that bike to get a job. This part is important.. Know your limitations. Washing dishes is a great start. Dont quit this job because you need it to buy the video game that will make your life complete and meaningful. I pray for that day. Now how you helped bungie tremendously. The standout statement is we don't want the same animations. Halo 1 through 5 has now used the same animations. Same maps.. Same game. Honestly ask yourself.. Would you one day pack up and move to china without knowing the language or even what to do? I know you wouldn't. That's what bungie has done and it takes more than you can imagine to do something like that. In the video we see halos ten year progression and how we added this than this. It's no different than what we are seeing here combined with the leap of faith. Destiny is a great game and there will come a time where you will eat static. The worst you have done here is insult legends who have been pioneering for 20 years. It takes a real douchebag to tell someone they suck at their job when they are breaking new ground. I will pray for you son. Also you are delusional in thinking you will make an impact. Finally I would set the tone and make an example out of you in court. He said how important it was to bring their loyal fan base over, and you created this filth to hurt their fan base. Even if its only one person, that's one to many.

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      • This game is good but could have been so much more if it would have stayed the course of the original 2013 design the videos and reddit talk about.

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      • The very idea of "Destiny" is a 10 year game. The idea is brilliant but just put out in the wrong way.

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      • Edited by Certified: 2/8/2015 9:38:35 PM
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      • I like and agree with this statement. See you in the Wild Guardian.

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      • The games Destiny and Warframe share similar conceits, but vastly different approaches to community interaction. The Warframe developers: Digitel Extremes, have WEEKLY LIVE shows with their players where questions get asked and answered, and upcoming events/Free DLC's get previewed. The Warframe Developers are Center Stage EVERY other week with LIVE shows where the DIRECTLY ANSWER Warframe players questions and concerns. Bungie's PR strategy with their VERY FRUSTRATED and DIMINISHING fans seems to be : Shut Up, Go -blam!- Yourselves. We will tell you whats best for you...we are too busy at the moment buying Diamond Dildos to Shove up our ASSES, out of the Money you Wasted on this half baked Turd. Prediction: Warframe will be going Strong in 10 years, while Bungie will go the way of THQ.

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      • I gotta be honest and I know this goes for 80% of gamers most likely more. WE"RE DTILL WAITING ON THAT REAL NEXT GEN GAME. HUGE OPEN WRLD ADVENTURES WITH ALOT OF ACTION...E DONT WANT A PS4 OR XBOX ONE VERSION OF AN OLD PLATFORM (PS3 360)

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        • Liek if u cri evrytim

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          • How do they release a game with so many problems? AND ITS A YEAR LATE!?! I feel like i just bought another BATTLEFIELD. A forever broken game with every patch making me not want to pick my controller back

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            • It's pretty funny how warframe came out (for xbone) a week before this came out and the difference was warframe was free, yea sure you could pay for items you didn't have time to farm but my point is a free game made by an independent company has far more content than destiny. Now I wonder why that is?

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            • I wish you were 12, maybe they would listen. ..but unfortunately starting to believe we were sold a turd and six months from now we will still have a turd. With couple flies maybe.

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              • K well, you go on and support Bungie if you want. Me I'm not a sheeple. This "game" is still completely unplayable by a rather massive ammount of players who bought it because of some kind of connection issue on bungie's end with its servers. Oh and it is on their end, not ours. I play on the same ps4 as my friend, he can play with no issues at all, I can log in right after and I can't stay logged in for more than 3 minutes on a patrol. So there is no game to support since this is not a working product. Do you get how pathetic that is? There are indie studios releasing FPS games that work better than Destiny. Destiny, the game made by the biggest fps AAA studio, DOESN'T EVEN WORK. Bungie might as well have mugged my ass of the money I spent on this unplayable piece of shit.

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                • Why do you Bungie Ass-Kissers treat Bungie like your Mother's? Were you too unloved as a kid, and the only joy you got was playing the earlier "good" Bungie games? Are you a Bungie employee or related to one, or a Bungie PR hack? How pitiful are you to defend this lackluster and content-less piss poor pitiful product!? Critics and gamer's agree that this is Bungees weakest release by far. Anyone who defends this travesty has an IQ that's lower than Destiny's level cap.

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                  • Duck Hunt has a richer and deeper story than Destiny! They must have created their game world using a Mad Libs book!

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                    • Great video but those games had a video story and an array of vehicles. What happened with all that in Destiny? They really skimmed a lot off the top and packaged it to all us suckers.

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                    • YEAH!!!!! HALF DESTICLES FTW [spoiler]CAN I SHOOT OF THE DESTICLE TESTICLE[/spoiler]

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                    • That's support friendo. Glad you could share.

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                    • Your joking right? I mean about the beginning sequence. The fallen don't even come after you. It's a false sense of danger. Try it.. Seriously. You'll hear a funny quote from the ghost also. Was disappointed as hell when nothing came. I actually wanted to see what they would do to me.

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                      • Bungie might as well be in North Korea. They seem to avoid and despise their player-base. You can't get any straight or meaningful answers from them. They have gone fully Corporate Sleaze Ball. They crap on their players and expect us to thank them. I think this "Destiny-Debacle" is the end of Bungie. Good luck trying to win back the insulted and burned players who you pat on the head and completely ignore.

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                      • Don't make promises to your customers that you're gonna have these games out with the system or on these certain dates and have people pay hard earned cash on PRE-ORDERS just to be upset the games coming out actually 1-2 years from its first mentioned date...and to top it off they're not even adding all of the features they say are gonna be in the game. I just really feel like THESE NEXT GEN DEVELOPERS ARE HUSTLING MILLIONS FOR BILLIONS jus look at the facts im sure theres alot more who'll agree

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                        • It almost seems like Bungie left Microsoft's dungeon only to fall into Activision's. And now Destiny, a potential masterpiece, got butchered for money. I hope things get better.

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                        • The Bungie that you talked about is long gone, we have this new Bungie that makes storyless games, with no worlds to explore, that fire their main assets for money, friendship and camaraderie no longer exist here.

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                        • Edited by ZER0: 10/20/2014 7:02:31 PM
                          I've watched that video 3-4 times over the course of three years and It's just depressing. Looking back. Nothing in that video makes sense when I see the Bungie of today. None of the stuff Jason Jones says in that video seems true and the prelude to that video "new beginnings" just spells hypocrisy. This isn't a studio of 200-300 tightly knit developers making games. Seems more like just another run of the mill developer becoming too bloated for its own good. I don't like the direction the Bungie leadership is taking-- trying to become as big as Blizzard or Pixar. Naughty Dog and Valve still remain under 350 employees to this day and they are still producing great games. Everyone screws up. So can Bungie. The way I see it, Destiny 2 is either going to be more Bungie hubris, and therefore another failure, or a great success.

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                          • Favorite Game Creators will always be BETHESDA , and after Destiny i can say halo was their one hit wonder and they will never get close to BETHESDA..hell..not even to cod whereever this game comes from

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                            • This proofs my point this is the video I was talking about . every game bungie has made since halo 2 they've cut the game up so why is everyone so surprised that they did it with destiny?

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