I would have like it if the iron banner was PVP's Raid equivalent. For example: -[u]Gear[/u]: Did have much larger impact. (To increase difficulty) -[u]Rewards[/u]: Armor and Weapon drops similar to Raid equipment. (Random drops would be fine, performance being a slight factor would be appreciated.) -[b]Armor[/b]: Max Light = 30 -[b]Weapons[/b]: -Elemental Damage -Perks that are crucible specific Ex.(does X% more damage to ______ class guardians.) -[u]Reputation[/u]: At least some reputation for finishing the game win or lose. -[u]Bounties[/u]: More objective base bounties seeing as Iron Banner is a variant of control. Ex.(Get X amount of defends/ Captures.)

I've played a lot of Iron Banner and I've lost every single match because the enemy team either always gets the good spawn camp areas or all have fully-upgraded Suros Regimes. It's ridiculous how much my team falls apart because the enemy strategy is to camp in areas where we can't even reach them. I think a lot of the maps are broken for this reason in terms of the Iron Banner. If you can't kill the enemy because they're camping and are a higher level than you, you're guaranteed to lose from the start. I also feel like my weapons and gear are useless despite being fully upgraded and legendary.

So in my option my gear(lvl 25 warlock) does make a difference especial weapons. For example, yesterday I was playing with a level 8 who was in mostly uncommon gear. When I hit him with my fusion rifle he died instantly. He ended up spawning behind me and shooting me with his. It took out my shield but fave me the time to spin and kill him. GEAR MAKES A DIFFERENCE!!!

I played it once. I don't really have that great of gear. I just got a legendary autorifle last night. I have a legendary fusion rifle but it's not upgraded. My armor isn't fully upgraded yet either. So, I'm really not ready for it yet. Maybe by the end of it I might be or the next time they do it. *The main reason I haven't played it since is because I heard a lot of people quit out on it. So, until Bungie finds a way to fix that I'll stick to the regular crucible. Having people quit mid match is really annoying.

No super powers whatsoever. Everyone gets the same basic grenade and whatever guns they have. That's what I would like to see

Reputation rewards (items on vendor) are terrible. No not the items themselves, the fact that warlocks only have the gloves and class item for sale. Titans get the chest, gloves, class item for sale. Anybody else feel like that's BULLSHIT?

[b][u]Pros[/u][/b] - New Shaders - New Items [b][u]Cons[/u][/b] - Best quality items are locked behind a RNG wall - 24/7 Control which is practically impossible to prevent consistent losses in when flying solo - Zero rep awarded for losing games - Underwhelming "level advantages" - Now responsible for my refusal to participate in all objective based game types and PvP oriented events in Destiny without a five man team present So yeah... It's been a relatively terrible experience for me overall, but thankfully I'm one more win and bounty away from being done.

My only concern is the IB rep for a loss. It literally gives NO incentive to play/stay. Sure, elitists can argue that losers shouldn't get anything but it works both ways. Rep needs more games. Games need more players. No rep for losses = less players = less games. I personally think that Crucible/IB rep should be kill based which would make it much more fun and reward players for doing well. 1 kill = 1 rep.

As far as the rep goes maybe instead of rep for a loss, you could get some sort of continuous match rep boost. so that even if you lost the last match you get like a 10% rep boost for each continuous match you hadnt left. capping at a certain point. so even if you know youll lose you know the next time you win your chain will boost your next rep gain by 30%

So the only thing I have to say my best games in crucible were a 1.2 and in ib I have a 3.25 so I see a difference but there is something going on with the levels 12 - 18 they shouldn't be able to take four or five shots from a 248 hand cannon that's my only complaint

Gear: At level 28 with a maxed out Devil You Know hand cannon, I should be able to take out level 5-15's with one headshot, not two. Everything on up from there should require the normal two headshots. Like wise, a level 5-15 should need to put at least 3 hand cannon headshots into me before I go down. Can't really comment about other primary weapons because I don't really use them. Secondary weapons are tricky in balance as it is, so I won't comment on those either. Heavy weapons seem okay, though my machine gun should be chewing through low levels as well, and it doesn't seem to be. That being said, I think low levels should be worth less points per kill and if you are a low level and manage to kill a high level, it should be worth more points. Risk vs reward kind of thing. Rewards: Speaking of rewards, there wasn't much in this event that really excited me. The shaders are nice and the cloak is a nice fashion statement, but that is about it. People at the bottom of a losing team are still getting some nice stuff, myself included in a few matches, while people at the top of a losing team are normally getting the shaft, myself included a few matches as well. Ditto for winning teams. That needs to change. I understand the logic of it in normal crucible because it helps out those who are just learning, but this event was supposed to be about the best and the best deserve something for their efforts on both sides. The worst players should get nothing better than a piece of green gear, or a blue shader at best. Everyone else inbetween can use the normal crucible rng for rewards. Reputation: This is a tricky topic to address. Losers are getting nothing and it is really starting to throw off games with people leaving. Some people like the penalty option for leaving early, others want to encourage staying by giving rep to both sides. I think it should be both. Winners should get their normal rep, losers should get 5 rep, and anyone who leaves early gets a 10 minute cooldown on being able to join another pvp match. That penalty will also include 1 hour flag on your account so if you do it again, the penalty becomes 20 minutes (and on up to one hour) and the 1 hour flag resets.

With the system the way it currently is, what is the incentive for me to stay in the game when my team is down 4000 points? A 1% chance of landing something useful at the end of the game? Sorry, I'll just quit and hope for a better team next time.

I just got Timur's Leash for actually being in first place and WINNING an iron banner match, AMA.

To me it seems like the rewards they advertised are unobtainable, and that's very annoying to me. Why would they advertise all these rewards when no one is even getting them?