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Edited by dragoon:
10/8/2014 4:11:05 AM
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Deej, watch this, and please pass some ideas along to the quest design team: (clearly it's important to people)
*edit* deej of you read this please Watch the second video I posted.*
This, and it's associated second part are excellent analysis of quest design. I feel like Bungie really could have pushed some environmental quests more, have us discover little pockets of surviving humanity and such. Deej if you could give your input both to us and the design team that'd be great. This would provide some much needed freshness to the game!
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Hopefully all the Negative Feedback (Not Complaints) about the story and quests will make it through to the right people. I want to love this game, I just can't.. Its fun, beautiful and musically awesome, but their is no connection to anyone..
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Edited by QuincyBlaze: 10/10/2014 5:37:34 PMBumping for the future of the game
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1 Reply5 kinds of quests? Man, I never thought that I'd think to myself that a game might actually benefit from having a few escort quests. There are so few kinds of quests that having some goddamned escort quests might actually improve things. That's pretty sad.
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*Bump
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First, *tear* EverQuest, oh how I miss those days. Second, OMFG, BUMP, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS HOLY [u][i][b]BUMP!!!!![/b][/i][/u]
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Great post! I discover extra credits a few months ago and I often though about a lot of their videos while I was playing destiny. It's like bungie watched them all and did exactly what they recommended NOT to do while designing their game. It's almost funny how much they follow that line of thinking
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5 RepliesThat is a good concept and I'm getting the idea we may not see this over night, but it could be implemented into Patrol in a further expansion or update. Side Quest should be side [i]Stories[/i] that complement the overall lore of the game's story. Thus far Patrol succeeds in this, but the diversity is mostly brought by the Public events which are at time hard to find. I find that exploration is fun in this game and has great amazing detail to the living environments. But a good concept to implement would be for example Portal 2's use of visual story hints like graffiti on the walls and maybe journal logs or crime scene investigations that have some small story tid bits. Thus leading to my idea that maybe random public events or specific patrols that lead to sides story missions should be provided or expanded upon. Like for example, complete a specific type of public even or patrol provides a clue that would lead to a story mission that only can be unlock through exploration and timing with a specific mission. Sort of like the Exotic bounties but this time with actual cinematic or log entries you find and learn things. This would lead to a new story mission that when played gives some story lore no matter how simple changes our perspective of the world of Destiny. I hope this makes sense, lol. What really needs to be done is a expansion of the [u]current [/u] games Patrol mission mode, not a complete throw away and start over, that would be ridiculous for the game is really fun.
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Honestly, I have felt like linking so many EC videos for Bungie to watch. There's some serious sage gaming wisdom in that little show.
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ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!
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6 RepliesEdited by Chickenbaccaa: 10/9/2014 12:21:34 AMThis is not a MMO.
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16 RepliesDeeJ really needs to respond, this needs to be seen!
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12 Replieshere's the second part for anyone who's interested Also, all credit to Extra Credit, these guys are amazing at discussing and analyzing game mechanics!
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He is listening it's just he's busy with all the complaints about the game and trying to make it better. He can't just respond to it, there r others like u asking for what ur asking and there's too many asking.
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1 ReplyWow... This is amazing. What I would give to see these types of ideas in destiny. Something to pull me into the game world!!!
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Bungie has the seeds to many of these unique quests with the many dead ghosts on the different worlds. In addition to lore, we guardians could be motivated to finishing the mission started by our now dead brother.
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Extra Credits is an amazing show. I recommend it for all gamers, developers, and everyone in between.
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4 Replieswill never happen, gamers arnt just nerds anymore, imagine a million average gamers crying because they cant figure out some basic clue. dont get me wrong, i would love this, i had the time of my life in the 90s playing point and click games figuring out what the next step is, but alas it just isnt the same anymore
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1 ReplyDude when are you taking over the creative content for Destiny? If you're not you bloody well should be!
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1 ReplyFirst off, why do people make polls that don't have answers that disagree with what the topic creator is talking about? Second, that's a huge amount of work to create quests like this when in reality, only a small number of players will put in real thought to figure them out. Most people will just go online to view how to do it and go through the steps to get the reward for the quest. It's sad, but it's true.
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1 ReplyLove it... I want to care about the world, not go through it because I want to be perfect. I am tired of these kind of MMOs. I want a deep world with an history, puzzles, riddles, and secret worlds.
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I would love to see more story line quests, especially ones where we get to see more of the worlds rather than wandering around the same areas taking down the same groups of enemies as they respawn to complete the patrol missons. Finding little groups of survivors and saving them would be fun, or even getting the patrol missons from them rather that a flashing green bulb and voice in my head. Would give more context to what we are doing overall.
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2 RepliesThe second video is far better. I really like both though. I love how enviromentle quests are explained and then compare them to the poop we get on patrol missions... bungie... this is my biggest wish.... fix patrol missions there tosh.
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Edited by dragoon: 10/8/2014 4:53:41 AMso just got this grimoire card with this text: [quote] "The Hive never leaves the Moon." This is dogma - a way to soothe frightened children and reassure wary Guardians. Not so long ago, a wandering Hunter and her Fireteam stumbled onto a feral community in the Eastern Flood Zone. The gaunt survivors huddled in these bombed-out ruins spoke of a terrible presence and begged for protection. No self-respecting Guardian could refuse. As night fell, the Guardians found themselves the hunted - stalked through the ruins by shapes of bone and shadow. The discovery of a Hive Seeder made the truth plain. Mankind's ancient enemy had come to Earth. The final confrontation came in the shadow of the Seeder, as a Hive Wizard and her Knights rose to challenge the Guardians. Only one Guardian returned to the City, her knife painted in black ash, a trail of grateful survivors in tow. Now, in the chilling shadows of the Hive's pods, Guardians hone their skills in hopes that they may one day live up to the heroes of the Rusted Lands. [quote] I think this could have been an amazing chance for a small story driven quest, but instead it's shoved in the grimoire where many will never see it. We need these moments to be playable to be able to truly invest in our characters and the world. We never see these random groups of people in the game, only in the cards...
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2 RepliesBe curious if deej responded
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Nice video. So true.
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