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10/1/2014 7:51:47 PM
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A long time fps fan on why titans are underpowered.

Hey guys I've been playing fps since before the golden era of Halo all the way through to new games such as Titanfall. I've seen some pretty unbalanced stuff but once In a while I find something that just needs to be put out there so hopefully the developers can see this and make a change. First of let's start with in my opinion the biggest issue for the Titans fist of havoc. Titans can not use their super offensively indoors as efficiently compare to the other classes. If theirs a roof above me I can't get close enough to my foe to grab a kill unless they approch on me or I'm defending. Sure you could say "bait them or flank" but compare to golden and void is just lacking. The other issue is that havoc does not grant enough health while its in use. I can't even explain how many times I've been melee'd out of super. There is a perk to get more health but its in the same tree as the shoulder charge and shield which are strikers best perks. I'm hoping we can get a health buff to be on par with the warlock. Next up is the bubble. Now this ones not so much as underpowered rather than not thought out well in my opinion. The animation for this is just... It hurts to think of this. It takes way to long to deploy the bubble. I've been destroyed countless times just as the bubble comes out. I lose my special and die just imagine master chief in the halo 3 trailer with the wraith. That's me only I'd be dead 15 seconds before it hit. No but seriously it's too long. Another problem is that it does not stop nova bomb. That dead ball can actually kill you and burst the bubble. See now fist of havoc makes sense for beating it and even the (insert sephiroth music) arc blade should beat bubble but not a nova. Next up melee "At close range a fist is better than a gun" That line is so false I could sue bungie for false advertising. Titans have by far the worst close options in the game. We have the shortest range hit and melee auto aim which is in the official guide for destiny. I've been killed in melee duals just by my foe walking back a few steps. The perks for this hit sucks too. "Storm fist has a chance to reset after a hit". This is literally the wort perk in the game. "Storm fist grants a small lunge or storm fist slows your foes" those are instantly better options then that which I just made up. It annoys me that the hunter can also cancel a melee with a knife to basically always win a fight. The defender melee is actually fine but I do think compare to sunsinger which gets over shield for just landing a hit is stupid. I see a lot of people complaining about the shoulder charge aswell. There is so many counters to this like iridium rounds, shottys, fusions and even knife. The shield sprint is balanced however. Alright I'm gonna put a quick sound of for other op things then I'm off. Blink strike can kill of 2 assult rifle bullets Blink needs a cool down Arc blade needs a time and armor reduction Gallahad needs a nerf compare to other blue ar's Golden guns still needs a hitbox reduction but requires a pve damage buff. Thanks guys for dealing which my terrible 3 am iphone rant. Capt Falcon 77X Check me out on destiny tracker. It proves I know my stuff.

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  • "I lose my special and die just imagine master chief in the halo 3 trailer..." This is downright cringeworthy.

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  • You fail with the titan we get it ok but dont bring your rant of failure to the forums. The only good class in the game is the titan because we are gods when using the defender class i mean we dominate with the suppresion grenade in pvp and our bubble and double shield wrecks house in pve and if you think you can make an argument to that add me on xbox one i havnt played in about a month and I gaurantee you I will do better than most in both pvp and pve

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  • Edited by Duke3008: 11/27/2014 3:00:40 AM
    Really? A class that can sprint for 3 secs and 1 hit kill anyone is under powered? I dont even.... i just cant anymore..

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  • I just want to hear someone complain about how overpowered the Defender is. Just once...

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    • Did you really just write all that with a straight face? Did you really just mention wanting FoH health buff AND shoulder charge? Shoulder Charge the one hit melee with no cool down? Get real kid. Coming from someone who plays all 3.

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      • Blink actually does have a cooldown.

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      • Shoulder charge is the best melee in the game, only melee that one hits. And I've played gunslinger my whole hunter game time, and everyone seriously over exaggerates the size of hit box.

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      • I just don't understand why you say that two class supers should be able to cancel the bubble but the warlocks shouldn't. Logic=Nonexistent

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        • Congrats for knowing your stuff (not really). If you use your fist of havoc inside and you don't reach your target, you simply used it wrong, get closer and use the damage negation. And you are just activating your shield to late. Notice how hunters have to find cover and wait to use their supers, you titans just press the bumpers and a half second later, invincibility or 3 kills. Shield sprint is anything but balanced, close distance while nearly invincible followed by a shotgun blast. Oh and there is no reason why shoulder charge should be considered a bad melee attack. And finally, based on what you are saying, either you are playing your Titan completely wrong or you should change characters. It sounds bad but grab a fast firing auto, nice shotgun, and ye 'ol Gjallarhorn and stop complaining about the most powerful class.

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        • Titans do need a little more auto-aim/lungs on their Melee it's bad

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        • Sounds to me like titan isnt the class you should be playing bc obviously youre not very good with it. I think titans are fine. Titans wreck more than other classes in pvp, imo.

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          • Titan class should have strongest melee but they are weakest. Without a melee kill a Hunter can get their stealth or throw knife from distance. A warlock can leech energy or instantly just get a shield which is a done deal in their favor in a close 1v1 fight. Shoulder charge is OK but it's not that simple to pull off due to sprint limitation to have it engaged, it's not smart to run around the map just to keep Shoulder charge up. Titan melee does not trigger effect, titans have to kill to get the effect for life regen or that shield. I have all 3 rolled classes and I can honestly say Titan is indeed the most underpowered in PVP right now. Hunter's are way up there with their crazy super ability that allows them to run around with 1-shot in the pocket compared to Warlock or Titan. Warlocks comes second with Nova bomb super without talent already leaves a DoT on ground, Sunsinger 2 grenade and Self-res which very useful in mos Crucible types. Titan bubble can be good depending if you have gear to blind that's a added perk but again Titan HAVE to itemize for this. A bubble with warlock solar nades is GG. A Hunter charging at you with Blade dancer is GG...regardless even if you itemize the spec with armor. Striker super is quite lack luster and easier avoided.. really only if you turn to a room full of people but I've seen the super miss lots of times as a Titan and playing against other Titans. But yea.. I'd take at least a melee buff to put Titans above other classes at this point before Supers..either buff or nerf the others. In Iron Banner 30v30 a Titan should one-shot melee where other classes does not. Also Armor... Titan are supposed to be Armor class. I don't see that difference when on my Hunter or Lock. Titan's are supposed to be a bit more of a tank.. pvp or pve. BUMPING this post and LIKE. Hopefully the developers are not blind and already know the tweaks they need to do, just saying every class should be different and should be noticeable.. not balance when another far exceeds in the categories (Super, Melee, Speed, Armor/Damage reduction, Talent options, etc).

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          • Fist of panic

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          • Voidwalkers can't use their Super indoors because it'll clip on the ceiling and kill themselves

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            You're kidding right?

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          • I honestly cant tell if you are joking. FoH excels indoors, instant wipe, one of the perks you get in the striker tree is getting an armor buff while using the FoH. Bubble is decent not underpowered at all. But seriously if you feel that way make a warlock or a hunter.

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          • But there is one thing I can agree on, and thats the issue with why Striker Titans are [i]not[/i] the dominators of melee. The whole Striker subclass is dedicated to put melee and Super. We don't get gun accuracy perks, we don't get ability cooldowns, we don't get lingering damage. "At close quarters, a fist is better than any gun." What a bunch of bull[b]shit[/b]. Hunters can throw knives at you from a distance, and finish you off before you get within melee distance. Warlocks can slap you once, get a shield AND fire DoT. (Let's be honest, no smart Warlock would ever use Solar Wind or Brimstone.) For a class that's so heavily based on melee, we sure have a real disadvantage when it comes to the act of punching people.

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            • Dont play as a Titan problem solved.

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            • sounds to me like being a Titan isn't for you. you seem to give Hunters a lot of attention; join us! we have golden guns and cloaks!

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              • Stop whining yah baby the subclasses are for what kind of play style you have like blade dancer is for the quick sneaky type people and Titan is for tankier people so stop complaining

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                • Edited by K4ypt3x: 11/25/2014 6:12:21 PM
                  He's right Titan isn't op it's just good at both pvp and pve where as hunter and lock do have some op things in pve and pvp. But i also disagree with you. Yes the melee isn't the best. I love suppressor grenade and lightning though. And i strongly believe bubble is very well off in pvp. If a Titan is running at you jump out suppressor grenade and then challenge and watch them panic. If a lock jumps toward you jump back as long as your out of bubble nova won't kill you. Then punish him for his mistakes he wasted his super. I'm not scared of blade dancers at all weave your bubble to refresh aol and challenge them. Golden gun = your dead though. Unless there's a corner near by to dip out behind. And foh i just use if i see a opp or to save my ass when ik i can't challenge and there going to chase me. With that being said i do believe titan does rely on gunskill the most out of the classes though. Excluding gunslinger they also rely on gunskill and throwing knife accuracy. But i do not believe titan needs a buff on any level there just harder to use and master but if you do get good with them then it's god. You can shut down anything and be like me and sit on heavy thunder lord every game sense the first heavy drop at 8:50 and it's very hard to be shut down

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                • I think the fist of panic works fine just round a corner get shot once boom that one guy is dead

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                • I've been saying the Titan is terrible for ages. I feel sorry for anyone that has to use it in PvP, you have to pick between a panic button that rarely gets more than 1 kill, or that useless bubble that's countered by every Super except Radiance and another bubble.

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                • TLDR - I've been playing since the golden age of GoldenEye on N64 and Star Wars Dark Forces on PS1. Been gaming longer that that, but those were my first FPS games

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                • Edited by l Ellz l: 11/25/2014 12:34:39 PM
                  I think you just had a bad day. I almost always groan when i see titan bubbles or titans in general. They definitely are harder to kill, and their -blam!-ing Panic button supers are annoying. Bubble + blind helmet is a nightmare in doorways or other strategic points. Bubble and near invulnerability overshield is just as annoying. Weapons of light in Pve is -blam!-ing amazing. adds close to 40% more damage at atheon fights. Strikers panic button can wipe whole teams and it can also save bad titans all the time. And it does. I honestly think your points are focusing on just negative aspects and you haven't looked at any of the positives. Biased views without looking at it from an outsiders POV. I've witnessed plenty of good titans and even bad ones performing well purely because they exploit the strengths of a titan. My advice to you is, if you want a longer ranged melee, SWITCH CLASS. Stop expecting the your wrong choice in classes to result in buffs or nerfs in order for you to have it easier. You have 3 choices and you should find which one works best with you. Edit: Your profile shows you clearly don't have a problem with the class. So I'm not sure why you think they are underpowered, or do you truly believe that your 4000+ auto rifle kills would be more if you were another class?

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                • Are you kidding me? You have over 3.0 k/d! You obviously kill much more than you get killed... So there's that.

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