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Edited by Snoo: 10/3/2014 12:22:12 PM
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So Deej / Bungie is denying / downgrading the story on Reddit of content purposely being left out of the game. My opinion.

Think 404Architect is telling the truth

1799

Think Deej / Bungie is telling the truth

316

Indecisive but favorable towards Deej / Bungie

292

Indecisive but favorable towards 404Architect

869

TLDR / Don't care / No clue what this is about

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EDIT: Sorry but I am done with the topic. Together with similar topics I think we made a point and Bungie/Activision noticed. In the end it does not really matter if 404A is true or troll and we will probably never find out anyway. Some are having a blast with Destiny and others (probably) see it's huge potential but currently are dissapointed by its repetitive gameplay and overall lack of content. As far as I am concerned both are right. Since I am not the type of guy to delete a topic the original post remains in the spoiler below. [spoiler]Since I get many positive reactions in such a short time in my reply to Deej in in[url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70924634/0/0/1] this post by Mohamed[/url] , it just might deserve a topic on its own. [b]In short the topic concerns a number of claims, among others content purposely left out of the game, addressed by someone known as [i]404Architect[/i] who is/pretends to be a current/former Bungie/Activision employee (or at least very close to them). [/b] [quote] [b]DeeJ [/b] You are being trolled, Internet. Don't let it happen. Bungie employees are easy to spot in the wild[/quote] [u]Sorry Deej nothing personal but educated C2B (Consumer to Business) for once[/u] I've investigated the [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the/]entire story[/url] myself and being a (former) fraud auditor I am pretty well trained at both (data) analysis and 'reading through the lines.' Although you may choose not to believe my former occupancy and disregard my opinion: - There is no proof of who he/she is, let alone a former or current employee of Bungie. [b]Also there is no proof just how easy Bungie employees are to spot in the wild[/b]. [i](if you ever been to Africa, I could tell you that even a 2+ ton Rhino can easily be overlooked between rocks or in the bush )[/i] - There is no proof of what he/she is telling us is true. There is however some [i]circumstantial evidence [/i] underlining his/her story including[url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/17/bungies-destiny-a-land-of-hope-and-dreams?page=1] a 2013 article by IGN (and videos attached)[/url] and [url=http://www.bungie.net]link[/url] which makes very clear intended content Bungie [i]promised[/i]- sufficient enough to show and 'brag' about to one of the worlds most read game sites- did not make it to the final game. Especially the fully rendered storyline cut scenes in the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwOUi4JDC4o]reveal ViDoc[/url] make more sense than the story included in the game itself. The reddit story itself all started from this [url=http://postimg.org/image/80it9ix8x/full/]mysterious and now deleted post [/url] of a self-claimed bungies tester which is supported by [url=https://i.imgur.com/Xv02vmU.jpg]this photo taken from the ViDoc[/url] which together lean towards [i]collaborated evidence[/i]. Last but not least IGN picked up on the [url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/29/was-this-the-original-storyline-for-destiny]reddit story[/url] and their suspicion is clearly not in their best interest unless they believe to be onto something. - What does concern me however is not what exactly he/she is saying but [b][i]HOW[/i][/b] it is been said and [b][i]WHEN[/i][/b]. To start with the latter; there is very little time between the questions being asked and his/her response. Secondly and more important he/she seems to be frustrated him/herself, yet he/she speaks of Bungie (and Activision) and its employees with dignity and respect, seems to know what he/she is talking about AND, most important, is very consistent in all of this. This even applies for negative answers, like I don't know / can't answer, which are most often followed by some sort of explanation AND then still are consistent with the rest his/her story. Counting against this is the lack of pressure like in a one/multiple to one interview but still all of this together (timing and consistency) is extremely difficult to do in a made up story. Conclusive: Together with my (our) own observations that the final product -although being developed for years AND put in the market otherwise- is lacking in both story and content, my opinion is that the statements of [url=http://www.reddit.com/user/404Architect]404Architect[/url] [b][i][u]should be considered legit[/b][/i][/u]. Future content and DLC hold against claims made by Bungie itself in the [url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/17/bungies-destiny-a-land-of-hope-and-dreams?page=1] a 2013 IGN preview[/url] and claims [url=http://www.reddit.com/user/404Architect]404Architect[/url] made by will provide the required evidence to confirm or deny this statement. In addition: [quote] [b]user made anonymous by me[/b] Wat did bungie advertise that didn't come in the game? [/quote] [url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/17/bungies-destiny-a-land-of-hope-and-dreams?page=1]THIS[/url] and [url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/17/bungies-destiny-a-land-of-hope-and-dreams?page=2]THIS[/url] Especially THEIR Pilars #1, 2, 4 & 7. Even a blind sees how far it is off EDIT: Thanks for all your response, positive and negative.[/spoiler]
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  • Check out my titan. Just made him yesterday and played through the campaign. There's around 6 hours or so play time on him. That's how long the campaign is. Is it short? Compared to some RPGs, yes. Compared to most every other console game, no. Is it lacking? Well there are some holes in the story that don't make sense and I do still feel in the dark about a lot of things but given its the first chapter and I didn't develop or write it, I'll give them some slack. Now on your points that things 1, 2, 4, & 7 where left out? Maybe some people feel this way but there are a lot that don't. I spent 4 hours last night searching the Templar room in VoG (video on xb1 under my clips) and found new areas and little passages. I was planning on getting the rest of my marks from crucible before reset, but that didn't happen because i got distracted. There is literally days worth of exploration in this game if you take the time to step away from bounties and shooting stuff to do it. This game gives you a tower to chill in and dance with randoms, show off the gear you got on a lucky day or worked hard for. There is 4 enormous world you can explore in patrol (unless you have found all the chests and ghost-not using a freaking walkthrough-don't even try telling me they are small), there are strikes you can complete on different difficulties, a raid that still has hidden secrets nobody has figured out (I'm gonna figure you out jumping puzzle time gate!), and PvP. Now if I remember correctly, the DLC is somewhere around 10-20gb in size. If we have to DL that, how is it included with the shipped game but held back from us? Was it cut from the final release? I highly doubt it. Bungie, since launch, has seen how people play their game, where people get stuck in walls, where their ghosts chill off the edge of a cliff when they die so every time they spawn they fall to their deaths, caves that can be exploited for loot, and so much more. They use this info they gather to complete the expansions so we can all have a good time, and only those that try will get stuck in walls. Do you know how much code goes into a game this size? I mean seriously, you all act like the devs shouldn't get paid for their work wanting everything for free. The company doesn't owe any of us an explanation, we all knew what we were getting when we bought the game (unless you purchased blindly, but trust me, the info was out there before launch) and knew that this extra content was to be sold as 2 expansions. Now that people are unhappy with how repetitive the game is becoming or the lack of info given during the campaign, they expect bungie/Activision to give them free shit. Somebody talks about content being cut and someone shows a video of new areas on the map and people flip out thinking they have been ripped off. Sorry to burst your bubble but you bought a full game.

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