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Edited by Progressiverain: 9/28/2014 9:36:28 PM
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Dear Bungie. We don't want your DLC.

EDIT: I wanted to clarify my stance on this a little more and without the use of any blams. I don't have a problem with paid DLC. I actually prefer to the alternatives like microtransactions and monthly subscriptions. Also, as a business owner I understand the need for Bungie to turn a profit. MY problem lies with the fact that this game shipped with SO many known problems that forum goers, reviewers and columnists all voiced their opinion on during the alpha/beta and every one of them seemed to fall on deaf ears. Meanwhile, we get a game that seems unfinished. All those little areas around the worlds that SEEM like they're supposed to go somewhere but end up as a dead end. Well they DO actually go somewhere but for some reason it's been locked away. Presumably for paid DLC. The content is already there but we're going to have to pay to play it. Normally this wouldn't be an issue but the content in Destiny is already painfully short so why did they cut out these much needed areas? My problem is that Bungie seems to be so dead set on churning out additional paid content they they've left a skeleton crew of devs to support the original game. They apparently have no problem with shutting down known exploits or farming areas quite promptly but they can't add a simple skip cutscene button or volume controls? A bunch of people shooting at a black hole isn't hurting my experience. Not being able to hear voice chat over the god forsakenly loud music, communicate with other players in the world easily or not being able to play the higher difficulty content because of the lack of matchmaking however, is. We all really wanted to fall in love with Destiny and were fooled into thinking that we actually might have a chance to mold and create Destiny alongside you with our feedback during the alpha and beta, but it seems that even though you say you thrive on our feedback, you've ignored nearly all of it and that is your biggest crime. ---- Me personally, I've already canceled my "expansion pass" because I can already guess what it will include. The same shitty story revisiting the same areas we've already been to countless times. Hell, some of this DLC we can see shipped with the original game via videos of people glitching into entirely new areas that are simply walled off and you've already stated in previous interviews that your DLC will "Revisit existing areas". -blam!- that. I refuse to spend my money on more or of the same content that can be completed in a couple hours. How about instead you pull your resources off making more shitty content and fixing your existing game. Heres what we would actually pay money for: [b]1. Voice chat. [/b] You'e already said you're "working" on this and want to add it "this year" but this will only be for matchmade activities. We still won't be able to communicate with people in the wild unless we add them to our fireteam which is my next point [b]2. Fix your busted ass fireteam system[/b] I have never seen shit so clunky and -blam!-ed up in my life. I have to return to orbit and come back down at a checkpoint to join a persons fireteam when Im standing RIGHT -blam!-ING NEXT TO THEM!? I have to return to orbit when I want to leave someones fireteam!? WTF We can't talk to people unless were in a fireteam but it takes 20 -blam!-ING MINUTES OF LOAD SCREENS JUST TO DO SO And why can't I see who the -blam!- is in my fireteam unless I go to the Roster screen? UGH [b]3. Fix the -blam!-ing dpad into something usable[/b] Jesus H Christ. 4 buttons for emotes is unbelievable to me. Why not create a way for players to communicate with each other with simple hand gestures and other callouts like we suggested in the alpha and beta. We have to -blam!-ing spaz out with waving and point just to show a fellow gamer in the area that theres a chest over somewhere. A simple "Hey, Follow me" callout would fix ALL of the non-fireteam communication between players. EDIT: This is what the dpad should have been. http://i.imgur.com/FSfWoZo.jpg http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2bh3ch/idea_for_16_emotes_using_two_taps_on_dpad/ [b]4. Fix the -blam!-ing crucible [/b] "Damage is normalized" - My -blam!-ing ass. You REALLY believe a level 5 has a chance against level 30's with full legendary and exotics? Are you kidding me? Why don't you make modes ACTUALLY normalized and then create a PERMANENT Iron Banner for higher level players who actually want to use the gear theyve grinded a bullshit amount of hours to get? [b]5. Quit having "events" that are just the same -blam!-ing shit over but with a different twists[/b] Queens wrath is -blam!-ing pointless after you nerfed legendary shards. Salvage mode in the crucible should just -blam!-ing stay and Combined Arms was just a mode with only the moon and mars. Wow...just wow. "Hey guys, lets make a mode that only has the maps with vehicles and then call it an event" "BRILLIANT!" Or just let us choose what -blam!-ing maps we want to play MAYBE? [b]6. Give us some sort of trading or economy[/b] Most people will agree that your game is nothing but a grind fest after level 20 with nothing to do but play the same god forsaken shit over and over and over again. Giving us something to do other than play repeated shit over and over like trading, crafting...i dont know...-blam!-ing anything? would make this game more tolerable. I'm at max glimmer every damn time I return to the -blam!-ing tower. I can only buy so many -blam!-ing ships and ammo refills. [b]7. Remove the -blam!-ing caps on everything[/b] Im at max glimmer on both my characters, max crucible and pvp marks. Any additional I get of all three just fall off into nothingness. WTF are we supposed to do with all this stupid useless -blam!-ing currency? I've got all your different forms of your currency coming out my asshole but I can't find enough -blam!-ing shards to upgrade my armor to save my -blam!-ing life. Perhaps if we could simply trade between players to some extent this wouldn't be a -blam!-ing issue. You say you want us to "earn" our gear. REALLY? Then why did you make a -blam!-ing loot system that is 100% -blam!-ING RANDOM. I grinded my -blam!-ing BALLS off to get strange coins to buy exotics with and the same day I buy the Suros Regime my asshole friend, who has NO strange coins and plays half as much as I do gets one in the -blam!-ing crucible for free. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [b]8. Daily, Weekly and Nightfall matchmaking.[/b] You want to close off matchmaking to your impossible to complete without 5 friends raid then fine but by the time we are level 26-30 and have completed the same -blam!-ing strikes and missions a hundred times over, we don't NEED teamwork to complete these heroics. We've all done them a BILLION times already. We know the fights, we know it's the same -blam!-ing shit we did last time. I don't NEED to be on voice chat with two other people who have also done it countless times. JESUS [b]9. Fix your -blam!-ing clan system.[/b] Holy dog shit. No in game clan support? 100 member cap. Is Bungie run by -blam!-ing monkeys? [b]10. Add distance markers to patrol missions.[/b] The only thing worse than doing the same boring ass patrol missions over and over again is getting the "Go here and scan some shit" ones where you end up driving from the starting point on the moon to the deepest chasm in the tunnels just to scan something and be left in the middle of -blam!-ing no where. In which case it's faster to return to orbit and start over. Give us a "4324m" distance marker and well know to drop that piece of shit mission right then and there. [b]11. LET US TURN DOWN THE -blam!-ING MUSIC[/b] Hundreds of millions went into the development of this game and you're telling me that at no time during the last 3-5 years did anyone at Bungie go like "Hmmm...do you think we should add volume controls?" HOLY -blam!-ING SHIT [b]12. Make me feel like theres a reason to try to win in the Crucible[/b] Because right now, there basically is none. The rewards are random, the rewards for winning are damn near invisible, medals do absolutely nothing for us. Right now the only difference between a win and a loss is getting 3 marks vs. 2 marks which I'm willing to bet the majority of people didn't even know. When I see people who are AFKing in my games, but moving just enough not to get booted and getting exotic rewards and free marks for my efforts, then you know your system -blam!-ing blows asshole. [b]13. Release the three blocked off areas on earth as free content before the first DLC[/b] This is your final chance bungie. From videos on youtube we KNOW this game was shipped with those areas intact. Some full with enemies waiting for us. If you now try to sell us these areas as DLC you are going to have a -blam!-ing shit storm on your hands and there will be a lot more people like me who give up and your 'Could Be So Awesome' game. You keep saying you thrive on feedback and you're listening but I'm not going to sit here and play the same shit 100x over while I wait to see if you actually do. There are too many games being released soon to sit around and hope you get your shit together. I'll come back in a couple of months to check on your progress. Shadows of Mordor here I come. [b]EDIT: New video of glitch shows these areas already built into the original game will be sold to us as expansions[/b] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-osssAKgEc All of you who still believe the locked up areas on Earth and everywhere else will be given away as free content patches after seeing that video are delusional. GG Bungie
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  • I agree with some of what you say.. But honestly your view on crucible is ridiculous. Level 5s and 1s have killed me plenty of times. I usually don't win a fight because of my level, or my perks or even my weapons. I win because I have better accuracy then my opponent. More headshots = win.

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    • I will start off by saying I do really like this game , loved the storyline an enjoyed the strikes etc, but I do think it's becoming somewhat repetitive , I know that this game has a lot of future DLCs which I'm sure will be cool, my only worry is that with the DLC not scheduled for release till December , are they leaving it a bit too late ? I'm a massive fan of Destiny and an even bigger fan of GTA and COD, will people playing destiny now still be avidly playing the same strike , missions , the bountys come December ? I'm not so sure especially with other big games released before The Destiny DLC!? I hope wrong as this game seems to have a lot of future potential

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      • Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm not defending bungie when I say this: You have no idea what their additional paid content is. Here's one problem with what you're saying: You didn't design this game IT IS NOT UP TO YOU TO DETERMINE HOW IT WORKS. If you don't like a feature, who cares? Did you ever complain for Super Mario because the 2 player system wasn't split screen? No, because you accepted the game for what it was. Now you're spoiled. Here's why I disagree or agree with your points: 1. Lord help us all if voice chat comes to be. I hate playing with random children yelling and screaming and talking trash. The way it is now, I only have to deal with those I want to. You not having a party is your fault. There are plenty of people on here looking for groups. Join them and chat with them. 2. No problems whatsoever with fireteams. I have never had an issue and the game scales if someone leaves. Also, who cares if you know who is on your fireteam? The only matchmaking is allowed for the easy facebash strikes and crucible. I'd rather not have to hear people playing with the music too loud, with crying brothers and sisters, or the news on in the background. The intentional fireteam system works and make sense. Loading screens are so short and we can change our character and check inventory/stats in between. That's incredible. 3. I agree with this idea for more emotes, but why not present this as feedback in a civilized way? I've submitted a lot of ideas for change without BLAMing the whole thing. That's a great reason for anyone to ignore you. 4. If that was the case only level 30's get to play. Level 5's have a lower chance of success because their subclass isn't complete. Why don't you just play better and stop moaning? 5. That's what events are and you are being ridiculous for complaining about Queen's Wrath. They introduce this random faction with random rewards that will either be a) bragworthy in 5 years when you're still grinding and the lowbies want your cool shader that they can't get, or b) the Queen's faction will be a major factor in the next expansions. Why do you have to kill so many fallen with queen's bounties? Maybe it's because you're going to have to get rep with the queen for House of Wolves! 6 and part of 7. Trading economy would further ruin your pissy complaints about loot. If you can trade, do you really think you're going to care about loot? I would love to see a trading system, but who cares if not? Gear can be something awesome you did or a test of endurance. Deal with it. 7. Caps. You clearly don't understand how games like these work. Everyone would be level 30 already if there weren't caps. Go spend your glimmer at the cryptarch and build your rep. It's not Bungie's fault you aren't trying to get more gear. Furthermore, if Crucible and Vanguard marks didn't cap, everyone would have full legendaries already. Limitations have to be made on these games or it gets old fast. It's only 3 weeks and I'm worried about my toon because I'm high level just trying to get shards. But I have 2 other characters to build up that have lgendaries and exotics already waiting for them. Without caps, this system would be further broken. 8. No. Absolutely not. These are hard strikes. You can't just stroll in and do them, you have to have a team that communicates. I would hate being matchmade with you because clearly you don't chat or care to. See #1 above for why this is a bad system. You'd have anyone at the right level joining and ruining it for everyone else. Hop in to LFG and post something to get a team and go do it. 9. Really? I'm in a clan and it's only people I want to play with. That's the limitation, DEAL WITH IT AND STOP TRYING TO CHANGE IT. You are not the developer. 10. I agree, but again, do you have to speak like drunken baboon about it? 11. Dude, there's a volume button on your speakers. I play with my headset giving music, and I have no problem turning things down. There should be one, but geez, present it as a request not like you're a baby just coming out of the womb. 12. Agreed, but winning the crucible = more marks and more rep. You're failure to realize the importance in rep and marks is your fault, not Bungie's. I would like to see more rewards for better players though. I bet Iron Banner will have some advantages in this regard. 13. Do you know these areas are DLC? Where are you getting all this information about what is in the DLC? I've said this a lot, just because it isn't available now doesn't mean you have to pay for it. The raid wasn't available at lunch, but why should it be? Let them focus on getting the bugs out of the actual game once it goes live and then incorporate the raid. Same thing here. Those areas may level 29+ in which case there was no reason to release it yet. You have no idea how they intend to implement this content, so maybe you should just chill out? Btw, I absolutely will buy the DLC. So maybe your title should've been, "I don't want your DLC." I am seriously concerned for you and your blood pressure, but even more so that if you can't be content with something so amazing as what is playing a game like this with such amazing rendering. Just play the game for a while and see where it goes.

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        • Honest Trailers says everything you do... with a chuckle and a grin...

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        • Edited by AJIc3CoLd: 10/6/2014 8:35:58 PM
          I completely understand your frustration and you're Fn spot on about most of these things. Especially about the Weekly and Nightfall matchmaking, completely absurd, no reason that shouldn't be included. The biggest argument against that is it will have people dropping in or out but that's the players prerogative, we'll deal with it when it comes to that but not have it at all is baffling to say the least.

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        • We was promised a 3 course meal. In reality we got a carrot with butter.

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          • I agree that in order for Bungie winning back most of their disappointed customers they'll have to give us a free expansion. Specially now that there's evidence that they only gave us half the cake they promised.

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            The unfortunate truth is that the fails will continue to pay for this crap and thus it will continue to be churned out.

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          • I wish I hadnt got suckered into the Ghost edition, correction, make that any edition. Only saving grace as far as Im concerned is the weighty shooting. Even the graphics are a bit too childish. Where the blam! is the blaming! story I was promised. Time to say goodbye to this grindfest. I fired up Killzone yesterday as I was itching for a bit of narrative in an FPS. Killzone. Yes Shadowfall makes Bungie's effort pale in comparison, or as Destiny is in its current form anyway. It sounds like Bungie had a blam! measuring contest and left all the goodness on the cutting room floor.

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          • I do want dlc

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          • I've already bought the Dlc, so yeah I'll be playing them and haveing a good time.

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          • Is this what we are gonna get for in the Dlc? THIS SHIT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN THE GAME! F U C K YOU!!! http://au.ign.com/wikis/destiny/DLC

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          • /agree 110%

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          • Don't know how I will fit this in... did you inherit your business? cause you sound like the other spoiled brats on here...

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            • If you look in the comments below that youtube video you find out that the DLC content packs are only about 9MB each. The DLCs are already on the disks. I hope Bungie are happy with themselves, there is a good chance they will beat EA this year in the worst company in America competition.

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            • Agreed

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            • -blam!- me I wish I could write so much ;)

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            • Longest letter ever seen

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            • Your d-pad Imgur example is beyond perfect, gg

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            • I bought Shadow's yesterday, agree with everything here but lets be serious all these threads, this forum, its a shell. Nobody at Bungie or Activision actually gives a shit how we feel about this game. Its all dollar signs, and for every upset gamer there are 5 more people who havent played yet that just bought this PLACEHOLDER of a videogame. Could not be more disappointed with a company i have followed loyally for 10+ years.

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            • Holy shit, this is all so correct. -blam!- this game

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            • you wasted alotta words,that nobody from bungie is going to read. if you want them to listen to you so badly....post on reddit. all those things you mention,were mentioned already in beta,and they changed nothing except remove story.except the stupid shit you seem to feel important,but really isn't :P

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              • Edited by Los: 10/1/2014 4:12:41 PM
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                Destiny has some huge flaws, I agree with everything pointed out in this article. All of these things were very apparent within the first 24 hours of launch and some were obvious back in the alpha/beta. If the developers didn't notice this stuff, that's pretty terrifying. There was a panel at Pax Prime back in Aug. Luke Smith and Luke Timmins said that internally Bungie will be super critical of their own content, and use the phrase "We're not the best" as a means of becoming the best, and setting a bar for quality. Sorry guys, your not best, not even close. I play Destiny, I like it, but it's so damn flawed, it's becoming very difficult to defend.

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              • I brought it on the 2nd day and returned it on the 3rd day. I hated it. I got it about 2 weeks later and gave it another go. I'm now level 20 and taking it back today. For me its the LOUD MUSIC!!! It drowns out everything so I cant hear footsteps, gunshots, voice chat, ANYTHING BUT MUSIC. I'll watch gaming sites for what the next updates bring and when they finally give it a music off option then I will get it a 3rd time, but till then its not for me. There are other better games out and coming out so no loss. And I HATE the fact all the DLC is already on the disc. SO I buy the game and have to pay AGAIN to play what I already own? F! U!

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                • Bungie and Activision should give the two expansions for free. And credit those who already purchased it. It's obvious that their whole marketing scheme has been a fraud. Giving the expansion passes to everyone is a good way to get back into people's good grace especially considering how much money they made on launch. Maybe if they aren't greedy now people will buy the next few Destiny titles. Right now they look like scam artists, and a shame to the whole gaming industry. You would think after the aliens game debacle gaming companies wouldn't outright lie about content. Because worse than being sued is you being blacklisted from your jobs. Just do something to make it right for the community.

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                  • I really like this game and can't wait for the dlc.

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