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Edited by zen10dough64: 9/19/2014 3:22:32 AM
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High level players camping Cosmodrome hive spawn, and Destiny etiquette question

NOTE: THIS IS REGARDING THE ACCEPTED LEVEL OF ETIQUETTE, AND WHETHER THIS IS CONSIDERED EXPLOITING THE GAME'S MECHANICS, OR IF THIS IS ACCEPTABLE. REMEMBER IF IT'S ACCEPTED BEHAVIOR THEN MORE WILL DO IT, AND WHEN MORE THAN JUST 3-6 PEOPLE ARE CAMPING SAID AREAS, I MEAN REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT PROBLEM THIS COULD BECOME. BOTTOM LINE IS THIS HOW BUNGIE INTENDED US TO PLAY? Alright rather than pose the question with an example observed, I'll simply state the question: Patrol Cosmodrome: Level 4 Area Is it acceptable or unacceptable etiquette, or against Bungie's rules on how to play, if high level players farm/camp/spam into Hive spawn or similar area's? Note: Not doing rounds of the area, simply standing there for extended periods of time, spamming 1-3 hit kills on mobs 20 levels below them. Also considering high level players could in fact go farm high level mobs that actually provide a challenge, do you as a high level player, that may feel camping low level mobs is acceptable, feel that you are unable to successfully farm a high level mob that could provide challenge, or do you prefer the easiest possible way to get what you want?

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  • Ok everyone, I'm genuinely sorry I asked this question. I apologize to any I've offended, or upset in any way. I get all of your various points, there is no need to do this anymore please. thank you. -Jon

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    • Sorry im confused by all the different comments and opinions, is it bad etiquette to farm? If so how are you supposed to get spin metal, relic iron and etc. I know you can do patrols to get them but they are randomly placed throughout areas so i assumed getting them was considered farming????

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    • The most fun I have had besides the amazing raid in the last few days on Destiny was sitting inside the cave stopping these scrubs from being able to basically cheat. Funny because they get mad and send you messages saying "Reported", haha.

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      • Edited by DEZARATH: 9/19/2014 3:08:20 AM
        So far all I've seen is three or four guys camping. Everyone camping gets a shot in and collects engrams. Everyone camping makes sure the hive can't escape. Everyone camping joins in on the public event. When some one runs out of ammo everyone runs in and collects. The first guy out gets into position and keeps the hive from escaping, while everyone else joins in. I actually feel like I'm having a social moment with other players enjoying fishing, over the socially useless Tower. Nanny gamers show up and get bent out of shape and demand players play like them. I usually wave at my fellow campers and run off for a bubble that gets rid of Nanny Camper. Return to the spot and they are gone. Herd the hive back into spawning in cave and level my weapons. Other high level players show up and we get back to work till the next public event. Once I'm bored I head back and dump my engrams on the Cryptarch and head off to play other parts of the game. Stop worrying about other players, I know it's impossible for some players, but seriously if the Christmas Cave campers are really bugging you, just head off for a bubble and they're gone from your experience.

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        • These... Rules.. These unwritten laws of destiny these scrubs seem to have universally invented are what is wrong with the game. This.. Etiquette crap. Its like darksouls all over again Ohh i dont like you doing that so its wrong Ohh i dont do that so nobody should Ohh i dont farm so nobody should Ohh i dont use shotguns so nobody should How about you stick your rules up where the travellers light doesn't shine

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          • Bungie designed its so its not glitching or whatever you call it. Ive gotten all my pieces legit and now that i found this method im taking advantage of it. When im level 27 and have only gotten 1 legendary drop ever. So for me its perfectly fair when i feel ripped off seeing the worst person in crucible getting legendaries. What is the bigger problem??? Meat head

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            • I did this last night and after 10 minutes a warning popped saying that enemies where about to engage each other in the area..... Then we where stuck in this crazy fight with The Fallen and The Hive..... People went down fast. Don't know if this is a new addition to discourage this farming technique ( which is not an issue ) or a common occurrence, but DAMN it was a good fight!

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              • [quote]NOTE: THIS IS REGARDING THE ACCEPTED LEVEL OF ETIQUETTE, AND WHETHER THIS IS CONSIDERED EXPLOITING THE GAME'S MECHANICS, OR IF THIS IS ACCEPTABLE. REMEMBER IF IT'S ACCEPTED BEHAVIOR THEN MORE WILL DO IT, AND WHEN MORE THAN JUST 3-6 PEOPLE ARE CAMPING SAID AREAS, I MEAN REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT PROBLEM THIS COULD BECOME. BOTTOM LINE IS THIS HOW BUNGIE INTENDED US TO PLAY? Alright rather than pose the question with an example observed, I'll simply state the question: Patrol Cosmodrome: Level 4 Area Is it acceptable or unacceptable etiquette, or against Bungie's rules on how to play, if high level players farm/camp/spam into Hive spawn or similar area's? Note: Not doing rounds of the area, simply standing there for extended periods of time, spamming 1-3 hit kills on mobs 20 levels below them. Also considering high level players could in fact go farm high level mobs that actually provide a challenge, do you as a high level player, that may feel camping low level mobs is acceptable, feel that you are unable to successfully farm a high level mob that could provide challenge, or do you prefer the easiest possible way to get what you want?[/quote] I actually think the real issue here is the fact that everyone seems to be so bored with the rest of the game that they have to sit out side a cave for hours on end to justify the money they spent. Don't get me wrong this is a good game but it's hollow I feel they released it as an incomplete experience.

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              • Doing strikes, bounties and patrol missions seems like a more efficient way to gain XP, rank, marks and engrams/loot but to each their own I guess.

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                • So many fps kids in here....

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                  • HOLY CRAP! QUIT MAKING THREADS ABOUT FARMING AND YOUR APPARENT BUTTHURT LEVEL BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDER STAND HOW MMO'S WORK. ALL CAPS RAGE MFERS!!!!

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                    • It's not cheating. But it's still cheap and pathetic.

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                    • Edited by kj2177: 9/19/2014 4:06:23 AM
                      I would just like to say that if you are a level 20 or 24 and you see a level 4 or 5 running' around, don't just kill everything in site...let them kill some. This is from someone who is a level 25 and who has been a level 4...lol. it is cool to help people out, but the kills for many of these people count for more. just an idea and my opinion.

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                      • Very good question. Personally i prefer the easy route if possible. I could tell last night while farming the spot that bungie was spawning waves of mobs trying to kill people. It was pretty funny because it just offered more kills for the higher level characters to enjoy. Almost like rewarding us for our hard work. Looking at this from a competitive standpoint however, i believe this cave needs a stick of dinamite or a bundle of dinamite thrown into it and blown up. But as long as it exist, i am going to farm it.

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                      • There honestly easier and much faster ways of acquiring exp and engrams. I do tiger strike missions, level 24. Got a purple engram on each run and levels new gear 2 or 3 levels. You also get vanguard marks and rep.

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                      • I have no issue with people farmimg mobs, the problem is the level of thosr mobs. Bungie simply need to look at the loot tables. Lvl 8 mobs shouldn't be dropping anything above uncommon engrams. This would simply move said players to mars to farm instead, but atleast those mobs are more equally matched in level.

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                      • So what exactly is the problem here? High levels camping low level to try & farm purple drops? is that the issue? If that's what is happening right now, then sure, it sucks... I grinded every single piece of gear I have except for the exotic bounty which I was lucky to receive last night, but I still have to grind a load of shit to actually get the weapon (25 strikes atm, & some other stuff). Do I like the fact that higher levels can farm low level nonsense and get similar gear to mine? No, but guess what, those players are still garbage. All those players ( and I know some of them) who sit farming gear drops, or get lucky with drops are still the ones who I smack around in PvP, & are still the ones who die 20 times in a strike because they don't know how to maneuver.

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                        • Bungie created the cave as is before the beta and chose not to change it , so I would say that they at least think it is acceptable. Bungie has promoted several less than honorable game mechanics in the past , ex: T-bagging (great fun , but not very sportsman like).

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                        • Yeah, it seems every day I'm on earth completing bounties I see the hive spot camped out with 2-3 players. When I take a break I just sit my character down in the cave and prevent the spawning from happening. Enjoy your day noobs.

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                          • IMHO, if the loot system was working properly than low level mobs would NEVER drop anything above white gear. As the enemies go up in level then the gear rewarded would as well. This would make it pointless for high level characters to farm lower level areas, and thus have to earn the gear in a meaningful way as bungie stated they wanted. Don't take offence from people who defend the easy street and don't want their easy buttons taken away. Every excuse in the "book of noobs" will be used.

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                          • Grinding is a deliberate, integral part of Destiny. It's not meant to be challenging, it's supposed to be a grind. This might be exploitative and I doubt they won't address it in a patch, but it's not a violation of anything. Of course people prefer the easiest possible way; is that a surprise to you?

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                          • I just found out about that area. A friend took me to it and showed me what to do. Everyone has their opinions, they think this is bad/wrong, others think its a great way to rank up with all the engrams. I got about 40 rare engrams and 5 legendary engrams. Its actually fun hanging out with other players and doing something together, thats the only thing that feels "social" in the game since it has no type of voice chat except for those in your fire team. Bungie has not made a statement about this and we are not exploiting the game by doing this. Farming is done on many games wether it be console or mobile devices. So if i had to chose wether this is wrong or okay i would have to say it is okay because obtaining engrams, ranking up, getting weapons and everything else is a part of the game. Just so everyone else knows. You will probably get a error message saying "bass" once you return too many engrams. You will be taken to orbit but you can go back to doing whatever you were doing. Im pretty sure it sends your activity to bungie so they can see if you are hacking/modding. It should not be a issue as long as you weren't doing those things. And btw i am on ps4

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                            • RS anyone? Fishing levels? The farm/grind is just part of it. This is not COD this is not HALO. I can't wait for the next big release so ignorant posts of this nature will cease.

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                              • I mean, I don't see the point in farming. It takes way too much time. Just choose a faction (vanguard, crucible, etc.) and obtain the legendary gear that way. I hate getting legendary engrams and end up with uncommon gear. It makes this game a whole lot easier.

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                              • First I will say I've done all the farming spots and I find nothing wrong with it it's the most effective way so why not do it but for other people who are again it here's what I have to say. The problem is that you can have the same chance of a legendary off a level 3 dreg and a level 28 captain if they balanced it out so that the harder the missions and the harder the enemies the better chance at loot more people will probably go do the harder strikes and missions but until that is changed farming weak stuff is most efficient so it will continue.

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                              • Hopefully they either start letting us put the difficulty of exploration on harder levels or as the player progress in level so does the enemies in all areas so that people can't farm 20 levels under....

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