I agree with content really lacking my hope is the full game is better. and pvp well I'll wait for cod advanced warfare! Hope fully they'll remove pvp and make co-op better!!!

Beta. Is all I'm going to say.

What did you expect, mass effect. A beta is something developers use to find what works and what doesn't so they can add and take stuff out. Drop and levelling rates were high so we could test out higher level items. The reason why it's so barebones is because it is a work in progress and they left out a lot cause it is not complete

Tldr. But I get the idea so... bye bye have a great time

[b]Content [/b]- The beta is the starter zones, were you expecting their best stuff to be released? [b]Missions [/b]- Starter zones aren't exactly known for the best content. Go play WoW and just play the starter areas (should be ~lvl8-10) and tell me just how much story you get out of that. Plus it was a stress-test beta so it isn't like they needed to include much more than the barebones of the storyline. Which is this sphere gave us knowledge, the darkness pursued it, and now we're on the verge of being wiped out. [b]Loot [/b]- Data-mined info doesn't mean that it is everything (though it can be). Also there's the ability for them to add in new loot. Another question would be randomly generated loot much like what we saw in the beta. The stuff where it would have the same name but different upgrade options. [b]PvP [/b]- I agree that this area felt the worst off. I disagree on your view of the supers and maps, but it still didn't feel as balanced as I would have expected from bungie. [b]Inb4itsabeta [/b]- Uhh, what do you expect? It IS a beta, and one that was specifically for server stress testing while only giving us a small taste. While there's nothing wrong with being apprehensive, especially in regards to the PvP (which is the least likely area to change from beta info to live without actual revamps), people seem to forget just what a beta means. It is for testing whatever the developer wants people to test (servers in this case). People also seem to forget that as an MMO-style game they can add in stuff either once the game launches or afterwards. Now don't think I'm saying that the game can do no wrong, simply that I realize it is a beta. I mean we don't even know what version of the beta this is compared to what version of the beta their internal testers are using. The potential is there, yes they can still screw up and tank the game, but with it being a beta as opposed to the full game, it looked plenty fine to give them a shot. Especially since we only saw starter content and none of what would be considered end-game.

I think all of your points are valid. However I took pleasure from most of what you did not. Not every game is a good fit for all players. Maybe Destiny is just not for you. I payed $5 deposit on s preorder just so I could try it on for size. I enjoyed myself. You are inteligent and well spoken so I hope to run in to you in another game in the future. Cheers VtxR

I think you need to go get your money back for the pre order if you even did that, so you don't waste your time playing a sorry game, that must folks really liked, It was just a B E T A !!

On size, I had that same fear. Just 1 area per planet is kinda small. What you have to remember is that even if the game isn't up to expectations, size wise, at it's core Destiny is an mmo. An mmo core means that Destiny has plenty of room to grow and meet those expectations. On loot... we played a Beta. Not all the best item drops were available. Ever consider that the styles of the gear was an reason for repeated looks. If I like my look as is and dont wanna change it but have to for the defense and bonuses and stronger weapon, I'd be very discouraged. Repeated styles with higher states means if you like your look you can keep it until you find one you like better with hopefully better stats. PvP... it may feel tacked on because you go straight into it against your allies. It does fit into the game however. Training skirmishes against allies, duking it out to see who's the Alpha wolf. But if it was Guardian vs Fallen or Hive in a serious fight, if the Guardian team loses, it'd make too much sense that you'll never be able to play as your Guardian again because as far as we know from the lore, the Fallen and the Hive want the Guardians and humanity dead not alive. As for supers in the arena... how does it make sense for your guardian to be able to do one thing in PvE yet not be able to do it in PvP? If not for the supers,Destiny would have next to no true surprises in PvP. And if you're not killing things with the Fist of Havok, maybe it's not the class for your playstyle. Whenever I saw a Titan using Fist of Havok, he/she killed someone/some people with it. Many times escaping unscathed. Keep in mind that we were only able to use 3 of the 6 supers we saw in the Beta. Titans can create an void shield which I'm fairly positive would make golden gun and nova bomb fairly useless considering you can see them coming. I hope this sways your opinions, especially on game size. I asked myself if I wanted to let fear of something that could be easily corrected over time make me miss a minute of this one of a kind game. Now I'll ask you the same. It's not perfect but then again, show me a game that does it better. That'd be hard though, as it is the first of its kind.

On size, I had that same fear. Just 1 area per planet is kinda small. What you have to remember is that even if the game isn't up to expectations, size wise, at it's core Destiny is an mmo. An mmo core means that Destiny has plenty of room to grow and meet those expectations. On loot... we played a Beta. Not all the best item drops were available. Ever consider that the styles of the gear was an reason for repeated looks. If I like my look as is and dont wanna change it but have to for the defense and bonuses and stronger weapon, I'd be very discouraged. Repeated styles with higher states means if you like your look you can keep it until you find one you like better with hopefully better stats. PvP... it may feel tacked on because you go straight into it against your allies. It does fit into the game however. Training skirmishes against allies, duking it out to see who's the Alpha wolf. But if it was Guardian vs Fallen or Hive in a serious fight, if the Guardian team loses, it'd make too much sense that you'll never be able to play as your Guardian again because as far as we know from the lore, the Fallen and the Hive want the Guardians and humanity dead not alive. As for supers in the arena... how does it make sense for your guardian to be able to do one thing in PvE yet not be able to do it in PvP? If not for the supers,Destiny would have next to no true surprises in PvP. And if you're not killing things with the Fist of Havok, maybe it's not the class for your playstyle. Whenever I saw a Titan using Fist of Havok, he/she killed someone/some people with it. Many times escaping unscathed. Keep in mind that we were only able to use 3 of the 6 supers we saw in the Beta. Titans can create an void shield which I'm fairly positive would make golden gun and nova bomb fairly useless considering you can see them coming. I hope this sways your opinions, especially on game size. I asked myself if I wanted to let fear of something that could be easily corrected over time make me miss a minute of this one of a kind game. Now I'll ask you the same. It's not perfect but then again, show me a game that does it better. That'd be hard though, as it is the first of its kind.

After seeing that the final game is only 22 story missions. I expect they will be a lot longer in the final game. This was a Beta and had Accelerated XP progress. Final game will need much longer missions in order to rank up with only 22 story missions. Ultimately, I'm not going to make a decision on the content of the final game based on a very limited Beta. If you don't feel the same way don't buy the game. PVP this is what the Beta test is all about. Helping to find the flaws in the game balance. As players exploit class abilities in ways the designers didn't imagine. Final game will be better, but it's always changing.

[quote]First off, i'm ready for the fanboys to say that this game is a godsend, or start randomly pretending to be characters like this entire forum seems to be. However, hopefully there's at least one reasonable person in here. I'm going to go over what's wrong with this game, and why as a huge MMO player, I know that this game will fail, as in it wont last long. [b][u]Content[/u][/b] So, after playing all the Earth missions, running around finding everything in explore mode, and doing the Strike multiple times. Then going over and doing it all again when my friend got in the game, it's just become obvious that this game lacks content story-wise. There's a few missions and a strike that wont take long to master, and it's ONE destination per planet. It took all of one day, maybe even a few hours to find and do everything on Earth, and after playing the moon mission I can say that it will be the exact same thing. "Well there's locations we can't get to in the beta!" No, people have glitched into them and they're tiny, this is ridiculous, the game is extremely small. [b][u]Missions[/u][/b] Now, this is a hard one because generally MMO's have bad missions that are repetitive but I thought Destiny might be the exception with Bungie creating a great story in the Halo games. However, the plot is vague, the story makes no sense so far, and the missions take all of ten minutes. Along with this is the fact that they're strung together to make them seem longer. You could easily string all of the missions on Earth together and make one normal sized campaign mission from another game. Instead we're brought back to the beginning of the zone, and have to go through building's we went through in the last mission to get to where the new mission starts making it seem longer than it is. The missions are repetitive and boring after playing them more than once. "Shoot enemies, go to place, put ghost in computer, fight wave of enemies, wait 30 seconds for mission to end." It's linear, it's repetitive, it's BAD. Hopefully the full game missions will be better, but with 1/4 of the game's missions being dull I can't see it being great. [b][u]Loot[/u][/b] There are a shockingly tiny amount of drops for you to collect, somebody linked the different pieces of armour earlier and with around 4-20 exotics in only a FEW slots. (Some armour slots don't even have exotic pieces) it's terrible. Everybody is going to look the same, everyone will have the exact same armour, it's not going to be unique at all. This is shown when you pick up loot and it's the same piece of armour you've picked up 50 times before, and the new "better" armour looks basically the same as the last one you had. Drops make no sense, and legendaries seem to be handed out like they're nothing. You can buy legendaries, you get them in the iron banner all the time, it's too easy to get these things. [b][u]PVP[/u][/b] PVP feels tacked on, it doesn't feel like it fits into the game at all, and is unbalanced to the extreme. Hunter's supers easily kill three people one shot, warlocks also get a ranged/cqc super, while titans are stuck with a super that slams enemies in front of him, possibly getting a few kills. However, the warlock super can basically do the same thing just by aiming it at the ground, and it can also be ranged, so what is the point is playing titan at all?!?!? The map rotation is really shoddy and i've had the moon map five times in a row more times than I can count instead of being taken to another location. I counted while playing the Iron banner what maps in got without leaving a lobby 4 times moon 3 times venus 2 times earth 1 time mars Why? Why does it not rotate constantly like a normal game? Nobody wants to play the same map over and over, especially when the moon is utter trash, the Earth being a camp fest, venus being good, and mars being mediocre. This needs to be fixed. This game needs fixing, it's overhyped. It has potential to be good, but with the release soon there's no way they can fix half of this. Hopefully the second one will be better. Have fun arguing and supporting this game like sheep in the comments. [b]Inb4itsabeta[/b][/quote] you are a rat faced ogre with a terd in yee old ear hash brown selfie

I agree with some points you made. I feel mostly concerned with the size of the gameplay area and Campaign. Even in hard mode, story mode levels took 10 minutes to beat, and some of them repeated same environment... I hope that there will be more areas to explore other than the 4 announced planets. When game was first announced, Bungie made it seem like we could go to all planets of Solar System. Even if there will be just 4 planets to explore, I hope that story missions be longer and with more varied "tasks." Strike mission was the most fun part of both Alpha and Beta for me, still hearing that there will be just one per planet is kind of frustrating... I'll keep my pre order for the game with good faith on Bungie for their past achievements, hoping that they deliver at least in the fun department even if the game is not the giant they first promised.

For all you guys butthurt, this game is not going to be as great as its overly hyped up to be. The beta shouldn't even be called a real beta as it was obviously polished and just a marketing stunt, not to mention it was 25% of the actual game (confirmed by deej). Just because it's something new and different from your traditional fps doesn't make it better. They even held back from calling it an mmo because they knew it wouldnt live up to it. (You can spend hundreds or even thousands of hours on a good mmo), and with Destiny, after playing 25% of the game for 20 hours, there's not much left to do.

I agree with you on some parts: Okay I did play the story missions and they started to get boring. The fact that I kept going through the same place over and over was ridiculous. The game felt a little overhyped. I think that all classes are very balanced and I like them all. In PVP I do agree that you play on the same maps over and over again. I think at one point I played on Venus 6 times in a row. I loved the moon, earth was fine, Mars was probably my favorite and Venus I didn't like. Loot was fine in my opinion. the game. Though the story didn't make sense I'm sure they'll add more to it and make it better. Overall I still loved the game. And I'm excited for the release.

I agree that the story needs more umph, games are 10x more enjoyable when the story is well written and interesting and you actually care what you're fighting for. Ex. Kingdom Hearts, arguably one of the greatest Square Enix games ever. Now I know kingdom hearts isn't a MMO but just because a game is an MMO doesn't mean it can't have a great story line.

You are right in everything, at least from the thing we've seen in the beta. I think that some of this things will be better in the final release like the rotation of the PVP or maybe the loot. The thing is that you don't have to look at this things because Bungie is crying that this is not an MMORPG, so you basically have to focus on shooting and shooting is fun, not extremly fun, but fun. Shooting with friends, it's so cool.

There's a difference between offering feedback and bitching. Guess which one you did.

You do realize you were playing a Beta. Bungie wanted you to experience the world while they stress tested the networking. They would never show their whole hand in this beta. Items were, most likely contained, levels pushed up quicker with more XP boosts and areas closed off. This was not a representation of the full game, and frankly, it was one hell of a ride while it lasted. Definitely got my excited to play the final version. Plus, I was playing on an xbox 360 at 720p. The final will be running at 1080p. It looked awesome on my old machine, and, as the previous gem Halo did for the XBOX, will probably turn my wrist into getting an Xbox One. Add to that, I put about 10 hours into the Beta, more then most AAA games played to completion.

Right going to put this out there mate, your opinion is just that, not fact. You're categorically saying the game is 'bad' however in my opinion the game is very good! Please get off your internet high horse if the game isn't what you wanted it to be then just don't buy it...