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Edited by HurtfulTurkey:
5/30/2014 2:05:34 PM
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Does our culture tell men they're entitled to sex?
Simple question with no third option. Do you think that current Western culture, at some level, tells men that they are entitled to women? (Had to shorten the title)
Explain, if you want.
Edit 5/30:
Question 2:
Do you think our society is misogynistic?
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1 ReplyEven if our culture was trying to tell me that, I would know better. You see, I am married. Seriously though, long before getting married I knew that no one is "entitled" to sex. It's not something that one person gives/takes from another and it is not something that someone does to another. It's something that two people (or more if you're into that sort of thing) do together because they want to and choose to.
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Not anymore.. If you don't have the skill of manipulation, an amazing job or money, its nearly impossible to get some.. Love isn't a big part of the equation like it use to be
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'Not at all' to both questions.
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Edited by Qwerty: 6/1/2014 5:13:06 AMIn modern society, it is all about either Dorothy from wizard of oz or a Disney Princess who needs a man to be happy. Little Boys are not given a role model like girls to base things such as "love" on and therefore look to the films meant for teenagers/adults (not sex) like Star Wars. Because of this, they are taught that they are suppose to overcome evil and be rewarded with a beautiful maiden. When they reach adulthood with this mentality, sex is added to the equation. The problem is, a woman's affection (still not talking about the two backed beast) is something that needs to be earned. Here is a hypothetical (Not my hypothetical, but relevant) you see two lovers walking down the street and one of them gets shot, you pull out your handy dandy pocket knife and crouch down to save the dying person. While you are doing this, the dying person's lover is asking what kind of experience you have, you have none. Why would they want you to do it, if a nice handsome surgeon is standing right behind you. This is relationships and why egotistical entitlement is what causes our Fedora toting friends like Elliot to shoot people. -Qwerty the Great
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4 RepliesEdited by Wolvers: 5/30/2014 5:09:31 PMTo answer the question though, why wouldn't I think I'm entitled to women? I'm charming, good looking, fit, intelligent - there are guys a lot less desirable than myself who get girls so of course I'm going to think I should too. Same way a good looking girl with other desirable traits will think she's entitled to men. Nothing wrong with a healthy bit of ego and believing that you deserve things. It's not so much entitlement as enjoying your life and wanting yourself to be happy. Interpersonal relationships, sexual relationships, friendships, whatever - not really a topic warranting discussion, debate and analysis. It's a fluid natural thing.
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1 ReplyWell its sure as hell isn't going to suck itself
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2 RepliesYou should really direct that question at our species, not a single society.
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Not entitled by default, but I think love is something that should be available to everyone.
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inb4 supreme gentleman
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Yeah, I would say it does to a noticeable degree. It seems pretty obvious to me.
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Our culture is very diverse so there could be multiple answers. Overall though I'd have to say it's not.
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No, not the way I see the world, but different people see things in different ways.
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It could be construed in such a way
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Uh, no.
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Yep Though it applies to both men and women imo. People in general think they're entitled to sex.
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10 RepliesMale dominated forum: "Gee uhh lets see. No?! Wel I'm not getting sexed soo..." Seriously you guys wouldn't be out of place at TRP or something
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4 RepliesThis may not be the right thread for it, but whatever. I'm expecting someone to bitch at me for saying this. But, why do people think that prevention = victim blaming? That by saying that if women did X to decrease the chances of her getting rayped, that I'm blaming the women, saying it's her fault and that the man is ok because it's her fault. NO, you -blam!-ing dipshit. You're right, people shouldn't raype. People shouldn't bomb airports and/or planes. People shouldn't shoot up schools. But this is a -blam!-ed up world, where people do these things. So we take precaution, take steps to make sure these things don't happen, because it's protecting the innocent from the bad people who DO exist, and we need to realise that. But you can't rely on the law and authority figures for everything, and some level of personal responsibility to protect yourself. I mean, you wouldn't walk around detroit at 1 am, alone, showing off that you have alot of money on you would you? And no, I never think raype is ok. Ever.
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Strong desire for sex, yes. Entitled to it? No. Culturally, I'd like to think most men don't feel entitled to sex. There are certainly those that do, but I would like to believe they are the exception, and not the rule.
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I never got that impression, but who knows
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Yes without a doubt. You go on a date. Man pays for food, woman sleeps with you. If you don't get some action at the end of the night they'll tell you it was a bad date, or that the woman screwed you over.
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Yeah, I do. Men are treated like they need to earn sex, it's not uncommon to find opinions on at what point sex is earned.
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2 RepliesEdited by Seggi: 5/30/2014 4:20:18 AMBleh, not in the literal sense that we collectively tell men that you can have sex with women whenever you want and they're not allowed to say no. Not in the sense that every man has a complete disregard for the integrity of a woman's unforced consent at all times. Maybe it's better to say that it's not so much about men feeling entitled as it is about men expecting sexual attention. This post is a good example: [quote]Most men consider sex as an act of conquest, which means you have to earn it, which means that nobody is entitled to it. If men were entitled to it, the idea of a "player" wouldn't exist.[/quote] It's seeing women as a game: go through the motions, play it right, 'earn' sex. They might think you have to hit on them in this certain way or you have to buy them this dinner or that jewellery or a couple of drinks or that you just have to be a 'nice' guy or make them laugh. In any case that kind of mindset is about reducing women themselves to mechanical obstacles to sex. And that's [i]hard[/i] to address because it's something in just about all of us, I think. It's something I felt a lot in high school, it's something I've felt at parties and it's not something that just disappears and *bam* you're a 'good person' and from now on you'll never think in any kind of way resembling that again here's your badge for the not-sexist club, it needs to be actively recognised and addressed when and where it comes up. It's not as though somebody's a bad person for feeling that kind of expectation, but it does mean that you absolutely cannot just ignore it. Believe it or not, 'most men consider sex an act of conquest' is about as much of an endorsement of feminist conceptions of -blam!- culture as anything could be, and I think that is, ultimately, what this question is about.
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lol no. Only alphas are
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4 RepliesEveryone's entitled to sex no more or less than another person regardless of age, gender... Though for some people it could depend under circumstances (religion, STDs) Now that you mentioned sex, I think its unfair guys who manage to get it are considered champions while girls are labelled as [i]sluts[/i].
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7 RepliesWomen have sex more than men do.
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4 RepliesIt heavily emphasis and promotes sex but anyone that thinks they're entitled to sex is an idiot. lol
