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Edited by CrazzySnipe55: 8/15/2013 4:30:36 AM
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C'mon this is basic shit.

e: I've gone and bolded the most important parts for the TL;DR-ers. Alright, I wouldn't think that someone would have to tell some of you this, but apparently they do. So, some of you have made threads in the name of communicating to the masses that you do not have the highest hopes for Destiny and/or you do not think it will be a good game based on what you've seen thus far or expect to see in the future. This is fine. This is wonderful, actually. [b]Entirely positive dialogues allow for overconfidence, underestimation, and misguidance in the development process. It's good that Bungie is getting some criticism. However, in the Criticism Industry, there's a little known niche called "constructive criticism".[/b] It's pretty complicated so hold on to your hats ladies and gentlemen, and listen closely. [b]Constructive criticism is the difference between "Wow, this game looks really -blam!-in gay." and "I think that the fireteam system can be heavily improved upon and here's how:". Constructive criticism is the difference between "#DestinyWillSuckMajorBalls" and "#feedback".[/b] Constructive criticism is the difference between "Here are the reasons why I think that this game looks a bit derivative and not terribly ground-breaking:" and "Seriously guys this games just -blam!-in Star Wars with Borderlands like get your heads out of your asses you fanboys." [spoiler]Some things you should avoid when giving constructive criticism: 1. The F-word. It makes you look immature and nobody will take your points seriously. This goes for most cursing. If you want to be taken seriously, don't curse in your critiques. 2. Simply saying that Destiny will be bad because it looks like X or is the "same exact game as" Y. Explain why you believe that this is an issue and maybe come up with some other criticisms as well so that your argument or point of view doesn't appear so one-sided and not-too-well-thought-out. 3. [b]The inability to receive criticism on your criticism. Don't go into a critique thread thinking that you are 100% infallible in your beliefs and that you are just going to prove all the "trolls" and "fanboys" wrong who try to disagree with you. Threads are meant to foster and promote discussion. By going into a thread with this attitude, you are directly hindering discussion and making this place a lot less fun for everyone else.[/b] 4. The thought that anybody disagreeing with you is a fanboy. Opinions are like asses: everyone has one except for people who get a lot of facial reconstruction surgery and have all the skin and fat and whatnot taken from their butt like that one time the lady had her face ripped off by a chimp that was crazy right? Just because somebody might have a pro-Bungie or pro-Destiny opinion on something doesn't mean they have it out of pure, blind fanboyism. Listen to their opinion and consider the points they raise. They may allow you to start thinking about the problem, issue, facet, mechanic, feature in a way you hadn't before. [/spoiler][b]Hopefully this helps some of you.[/b] If not, I mean, it's whatever. It'll just be another in a long line of unsuccessful CrazzySnipe55 Threads.

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  • That was a very well constructed post and it needed to be said. However you have to keep in mind the age of some of the posters. Having taught middle school for a number of years young teenagers have a difficult time making simple arguments. Although this was a great post don't expect things to change to much. If it drives you that crazy teaching could always use some more intelligent gamers such as your self. Also if the crazzy snipe is an exotic weapon it would be an honor being shot with it.

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    • I don't really have a problem with cursing, if that cursing is well placed. If the criticism makes valid points based on solid evidence, then if someone wants to add the phrase "shit faced cockmaster" into it, then that should be OK.

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      • Edited by Commander Tempu: 8/19/2013 6:44:28 AM
        You want to critic every one fine but back it up with fact not well i um think um..that opens the door for some one to hammer in that you have no idea what you are saying. Density Dumb guys,i watched ten seconds really i know all is to know. First before you become a constructive critic know what the hell you are talking about. Second lay the facts out in an intelligent manner like the adults i hope we are. Third Don't be a internet troll. No one is going to take anything you say serious if you troll 24/7 and do a bad job of it. Fourth look things up. Allot of ideas get tossed around but be respectful of others opinions or beliefs. Fifth understand that Destiny is a great game but having nothing positive to say about it tells every one you have no idea what constitutes as a good game. I do not care if you have played thousands of them. Jumping from one to the next looking for a fix like a junkie. Act like you have an ounce of Common Seance and Logic. Last of all give pros and cons give people info but let them choose. Let them digest the info tell you what they think and you share and care. Some one has to be positive in a sea of negativity. Also if you watch the E-3 game play footage at Sony they did not want to be like ever other [b]Hype Game[/b] They wanted to show you the real deal. See how far they came. It looks amazing even as an Alpha heck i thought it was a Beta. For those who want perfect go build you're own damned game if you can do better. Give comments that help not turn you into an ass hat troll.

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      • I would just like to throw out there: the guys really could have done a better job in the gameplay release. I believe it would have been in everyones best interest to at least start off with the three guardians joining in the beginning with the capability to show off what each class is capable of and specialize in. Another thing and this may bring out some "ragers" but the guys that were in that video were not doing a good job in-game why would a hunter "bum rush" there were plenty of mistakes that I noticed in essence the guys who where playing were playing like noob gamers. Although the public event at the end was a great touch, some more enemies would have been appreciated although maybe that wasn't possible at the time so I'll cut some slack on that. One thing that really was a must have in that video and plenty of people have complained about it (anyone watch ZeroPunctuation?) the gameplay was nearly completely linear they should have at least explored around the initial battlefield to shot off that this wasn't a linear game, but once again this can be countered in the point of view of people who don't care as much for every aspect of a game rather than the fighting two guys walking around a bunch of old rusty cars would have been boring. TL:DR: Gameplay video could have been better and didn't show off the entire game's capability.

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        • I wouldn't mind the anti-Destiny threads at all if they were constructive. I enjoy debating differing view points. If we had more constructive feedback, it would help foster higher quality discussion on the forums again, something which I feel has lessened around here.

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        • TL;DR: Stupid people on Bnet, stop being so stupid.

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          • [url=http://halo.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?cid=26110]Relevant.[/url]

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            • I tip my hat for you. I can't be more agree with you, pal.

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            • The age groups around here don't help in keeping the topics constructive but I do have some laughs at their expense.

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              • Pfft, what do you know? Obviously, the more you swear, the more correct your post becomes. Just beware: If you swear even a little bit too much, your post will become [i]too[/i] correct and become wrong in the next dimension. Try to keep it at a limit of around 10 curse words per paragraph.

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              • Edited by TURRETS: 8/15/2013 5:06:03 AM
                obligatory wow this thread looks really -blam!-in gay

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