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7/26/2013 1:17:54 AM
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A question for Bungie!

When Bungie was making halo, why did they make all the human rifles, except the sniper rifle, bull-pup style weapons? Why leave out the sniper? The bull-pup style makes weapons shorter, but lets them retain the accuracy of a long barreled gun. Just wondering...
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  • Obviously I cant speak for Bungie however here are a few factors which might have influenced their decision. The vast majority of bullpup designed weapons are assault rifles, the main reason behind this is to shorten the length of the weapon, increasing their maneuverability in close quarters. As its not typically a close quarters weapon having a shorter sniper rifle isnt necessarily that advantageous. There are a few famous bullpup sniper rifles the Styer SSG and the Barrett M95 etc (they tend to be the exception not the norm though) The down side of bullpup designs is that the mechanism tends to be more complex (more complexity means a greater chance for stoppages) Another serious disadvantage is the fact that the magazine is a few inches closer to the the snipers face, if you were unlucky enough to have a catastrophic failure instead of the explosion happening 3-6 inches away from their face it happens right by their cheek/eye. (Catastrophic failures- are usually caused when a defective case is struck by the firing pin, instead of the case containing the explosive gasses and propelling the projectile down the barrel they blow backwards, damaging the bolt and blowing the magazine off the weapon) And also I guess perhaps from a design perspective they wanted to have a bit of variety to the designs. I have a concept art book for the original Halo at home somewhere and as I recall the artist who designed all the weapons (I cant remember his name) was extremely technically minded when it came to weapons. To the point that when he saw that one of the animators created a new animation cycle for when the player was AFK, Chief would start fiddling with the scopes wind age and elevation knobs, apparently he freaked the f**k out. A sniper would never do that in the field. hope that helps.

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    • Started a new topic: Does PC need a Destiny(23 Replies))

    • It is bull-pup design. Makes for a worthy sniper rifle. You can head shot from any distance with perfect accuracy.

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    • Well Greyman pretty much covered everything, but... Highly accurate sniper rifles have free floating barrels. This means that at no point along the barrels length is it in contact with any other parts of the gun apart from the receiver. This is done partly because there is a chance that the stock could warp. Mainly tho, it's because as the bullet passes down the barrel, it causes it to vibrate at a 'natural frequency'. If anything is in contact with the barrel, it affects its natural frequency and can affect the trajectory of the bullet. Essentially, with a bullpup design, it is much harder to incorporate a free floating barrel because a large amount of the gun is in front of the receiver (trigger, sights etc). :D [url]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfMIM0gogLoBKBlmQvn9b9yKFsHGf4cYTpA0R_H1PRF9cGAhgy[/url] [url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Thor_xm408.jpg/220px-Thor_xm408.jpg[/url]

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    • dont forget to add slide jumps and spring jumps in they added another element to the game that was just fresh and new true manual movement tricks

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    • Bungie are you going to have bases for each guild or faction on each planet? This would be cool. Ideas: Underground tunnels with weapons caches and remote control tunnels

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    • Bull-pup, in sniper rifles, is somewhat uncommon. This doesn't directly answer your question, however, it is something that I have come to observe.

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      • Probably because bull pup is cooler, and makes for a more aggressive futuristic profile anyway. If all the marines were holding long-barreled hunting rifle sorta things they'd look like they were from the 1700s or something and it'd be distracting. The cool part is that Robt McLees is a knowledgeable person when it comes to firearms and their mechanics, (Hey rob, if you're reading, have you heard of Defense Distributed? Look em up. 3D printed lower receivers and such) so all of the human guns are functional by design. A sniper rifle is using really high powered cartridges, so having the bolt right next to your face while aiming is probably a bad idea. That's my best guess. Also, I don't think the shotgun was bullpup, and yes that's a thing. Look up Kel Tec KSG. No, I didn't hear about it from Call of Doody.

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      • I'd have liked that.

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