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The Xbox One is a really, really good product

Because reasons: [b]1. Cloud capabilities:[/b] MS is putting up hundreds of thousands of servers to back up XBL and Xbox One. Not only does this provide more storage for things like user-generated content, but it can also allow developers to offload computations to free up more processing power on the console itself. Players can also pick up where they left off with games and media on other devices. Having access to a powerful service like Windows Azure will allow the Xbox One to become more powerful and flexible with time, even though the hardware doesn't change. [b]2. Specs and architecture:[/b] the Xbox One is certainly a more powerful machine, and it includes goodies like USB 3.0 and a Blu-Ray drive. It also features three different OS's: the usual Xbox OS, a Windows environment for web and apps, and a host OS that links the two. Having a WinNT kernel is an obvious bonus, since apps can easily be ported from Windows 8. But it also means lightning-fast switching between games and apps, and the ability to actually multitask, whether it's Skyping and watching TV, or playing a game and browsing the web. This "instant access" also means you can jump between games, if you're really impatient and waiting for a match to start. [b]3. Multimedia and cross-platform integration:[/b] The Xbox One drops a "smart" layer over live TV. Its custom-built guide allows you to find shows and movies by simply asking what's on a channel or saying its name. Its Trending feature sorts through the hundreds of channels by showing what's popular among friends and the community, much like search engines and social networks do to increase the relevance of content. Finally, it allows for unique experiences: fantasy football updates as NFL matches happen, stat-tracking with NBA players. Future partnerships could involve TV series and interactive, live content. Smartglass implementation means you can use any phone or tablet to control the Xbox. And cross-compatibility with Windows8/RT/Phone opens up possibilities for more services to be added, which can move from device to device effortlessly. [b]4. Kinect:[/b] IMO, the Xbox One's real killer app. It's already an insanely complex and fascinating piece of technology, but it gets even more powerful: 1080p video recording, wider field of vision, better voice recognition, a heart rate monitor, an infrared sensor to see in the dark, better depth perception, the ability to track minute movements like wrist rotation, etc. Developers are only limited by their own imaginations in creating new and [i]meaningful[/i] gaming experiences. A horror game that responds to the player's level of fear or relaxation to provide better scares, for example. Developers are have been lazy in the past, with gimmicky and exaggerated Kinect control-- but the potential for something much more is there. The Kinect's voice commands are to a TV remote what a TV remote was to a TV's knobs. You can walk into your living room, turn on the TV, channel surf, launch apps and games, and browse the web-- without pressing a button. Kinect can filter out background conversations and even recognize individual voices. And there's one sold with every Xbox. Ultimately, a gaming console is only as good as its games, and that still holds true for a multimedia device like the Xbox One. MS has announced 15 new IP's to be revealed at E3 and released in the One's first year, so that's nice. But, after filtering out all the knee-jerk reactions, I fail to see how the console itself [i]isn't[/i] pretty amazing.

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  • Edited by Jaraghan: 1/25/2015 8:45:52 PM
    [quote] the Xbox One is certainly a more powerful machine[/quote]You MUST be kidding. EDIT: This topic is almost two years old lol

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  • I support everyone that is defending this console and is neutral. I especially support the original poster. Don't let stupid people who find the smallest problems aggravate you. [b]I made the mistake of letting it get to me, I'm stressing.[/b]

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    • Edited by Mystical: 5/24/2013 12:39:26 PM
      Nothing about it appeals to me. I will never support a console or system that has DRM internet requirements. I don't care about TV, Kinect, Cloud, or any of that other tacked on garbage. Give me a system that plays games and doesn't require internet checking to do so. EDIT: I should have stated one time DRM activation I am FINE with the moment you buy a game. It's when I have to constantly keep connecting to verify that I own said game is what I am against. Like with steam I can buy a single player game and could physically go offline forever if I wanted and could keep playing. Apparently xbox one would not allow that.

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      • I know. Kids these days for some reason feel they're entitled to things their way. All of them will also buy the Xbox One.

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      • In theory these and Sony's functions are pluses. We'll see what becomes of everyone's claims when actual product is in gamers' hands along with actual terms and conditions.

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      • What's IP stand for? :(

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        • The Xbox One is a really, really good product No one will say ever

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          • [quote]1. Cloud capabilities: MS is putting up hundreds of thousands of servers to back up XBL and Xbox One. Not only does this provide more storage for things like user-generated content, but it can also allow developers to offload computations to free up more processing power on the console itself. Players can also pick up where they left off with games and media on other devices. Having access to a powerful service like Windows Azure will allow the Xbox One to become more powerful and flexible with time, even though the hardware doesn't change.[/quote] Irrelevant to the console war. Both PS4 and X1 feature this. However, PS4 has an integrated download system that allows you to play downloading content in the background via the cloud. [b]+1[/b] to PS4 for not making me sit through Live/Console/Game updates. I didn't see the X1 address this at all. [quote] 2. Specs and architecture: the Xbox One is certainly a more powerful machine, and it includes goodies like USB 3.0 and a Blu-Ray drive. It also features three different OS's: the usual Xbox OS, a Windows environment for web and apps, and a host OS that links the two. Having a WinNT kernel is an obvious bonus, since apps can easily be ported from Windows 8. But it also means lightning-fast switching between games and apps, and the ability to actually multitask, whether it's Skyping and watching TV, or playing a game and browsing the web. This "instant access" also means you can jump between games, if you're really impatient and waiting for a match to start.[/quote] Incorrect. This is an excerpt from [url=http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/156273-xbox-720-vs-ps4-vs-pc-how-the-hardware-specs-compare]extremetech.com[/url]: [quote]The PS4, in comparison, has an 8-core Jaguar AMD CPU, with a GPU that’s around the same level as the Radeon 7870. Unlike the Xbox One, the PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, which is much faster — but the Xbox One mostly ameliorates this difference with 32MB of high-speed SRAM on the GPU. In both consoles, the CPU and GPU will be on the same die (an AMD APU). Just as the PS4 has 8GB of high-speed memory that is shared by the CPU and GPU, the Xbox One – by virtue of being based on the same APU heterogeneous system architecture (HSA) — will probably be the same. In short, while there are small hardware differences between the consoles, they will ultimately have very similar performance characteristics. The PS4, with its one, big block of fast RAM, and bigger GPU, probably has the edge.[/quote] [quote]3. Multimedia and cross-platform integration: The Xbox One drops a "smart" layer over live TV. Its custom-built guide allows you to find shows and movies by simply asking what's on a channel or saying its name. Its Trending feature sorts through the hundreds of channels by showing what's popular among friends and the community, much like search engines and social networks do to increase the relevance of content. Finally, it allows for unique experiences: fantasy football updates as NFL matches happen, stat-tracking with NBA players. Future partnerships could involve TV series and interactive, live content. Smartglass implementation means you can use any phone or tablet to control the Xbox. And cross-compatibility with Windows8/RT/Phone opens up possibilities for more services to be added, which can move from device to device effortlessly.[/quote] Sorry, I'm not as interested in integrated TV experiences as I am in built-in media capture capabilities and swap-in/swap-out gaming, as well as spectating my friend's games. Overall, X1's focus on an all-in-one experience is looking less enticing than the 'evolved' gaming experience offered by the PS4. But hey, if you love CoD and Madden, X1 is your thing. I'm also more interested in the Vita integration on the PS4, especially if the rumors of a significant price drop are true. (stealing the one good thought from the Wii-U imo) Also, PSN Premium true story. My friend has been subscribed for 2 years at $50 bucks a year. He's gotten over $250 dollars worth of indie/AAA games during that time, as well as full cloud support. If this service continues as is or god help us evolves with the PS4, I count it as x10 better than Xbox Live. [quote]4. Kinect: IMO, the Xbox One's real killer app. It's already an insanely complex and fascinating piece of technology, but it gets even more powerful: 1080p video recording, wider field of vision, better voice recognition, a heart rate monitor, an infrared sensor to see in the dark, better depth perception, the ability to track minute movements like wrist rotation, etc. Developers are only limited by their own imaginations in creating new and meaningful gaming experiences. A horror game that responds to the player's level of fear or relaxation to provide better scares, for example. Developers are have been lazy in the past, with gimmicky and exaggerated Kinect control-- but the potential for something much more is there. The Kinect's voice commands are to a TV remote what a TV remote was to a TV's knobs. You can walk into your living room, turn on the TV, channel surf, launch apps and games, and browse the web-- without pressing a button. Kinect can filter out background conversations and even recognize individual voices. And there's one sold with every Xbox. [/quote] To me, it's a gimmick. I've never found it's feature-set attractive. I will of course allow that other people might find this intensely interesting/useful. To each their own on this point I'd say. [quote]MS has announced 15 new IP's to be revealed at E3 and released in the One's first year, so that's nice.[/quote] [i]Teased[/i] is a more proper term. The only exclusive we saw was Quantum Break and even that didn't give any gameplay. It mostly just confused me. Still PS4 > X1 right now in my mind. We'll see what E3 brings.

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            • You really shouldn't lie to yourself. Cloud Saves = Always online, servers go down and you are screwed. Specs = Nobody uses USB 3.0. Actually, it's specs are that of (gaming wise) a Mediocre PC and (media wise) a Smart Tv. Last I checked, Xbox can't replace my TV since it requires a TV to use. Multimedia = Again, Smart TVs do all of that better. If you don't own a Smart TV, simply wait a few years when they go down in price. Kinect = Never lived up to it's full potential the first time, and is unnessecary IMO. I simply don't see any reason I need to get the product. Which means the marketing failed already. The Cons outweigh the little Pros it has. Backwards compatibilty was what saved the 360 in it's early years (Playing Halo 2 while waiting for Halo 3 to come out). Online requirements and 1 install DRM are bad. No Game talk, and honestly the last few years of the 360 have been lousy. No, I'm not getting too old to game, but maybe I'm too old for Console Gaming. WHEN PC GAMING has less DRM and Anti-piracy measures then Consoles (and remember, PC was really bad with this until recently. no it didn't get better, consoles simply got worse.) SOMETHING IS WRONG.

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              • Edited by Tom T: 5/22/2013 5:02:31 PM
                [quote]MS has announced 15 new IP's to be revealed at E3 and released in the One's first year, so that's nice.[/quote]This, one of the most relevant things to gamers, was sourced from twitter, rather than the presentation (edit: sorry I was wrong about this, they did mention in presentation). It is concerning the console has cast such a wide net, focusing first on being an entertainment system, rather than a gaming console. I fear for the diversion of resources and focus. Next-gen is very blurred at this point, and Microsoft seem almost to be lying down in anticipation of mobile gaming taking the interest of the masses. I hope that this is not the case, and that E3 will present a strong challenge to that perception.

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                • [quote]The Kinect's voice commands are to a TV remote what a TV remote was to a TV's knobs. You can walk into your living room, turn on the TV, channel surf, launch apps and games, and browse the web-- without pressing a button. Kinect can filter out background conversations and even recognize individual voices. And there's one sold with every Xbox.[/quote]And I only use my TV remote to change inputs. I wouldn't use Kinect simply because I don't need to. I don't watch TV either, if anything I would just get Netflix. Browsing the web? I have a computer for that. The new xbox is going to have a lot of fancy new bells and whistles, but the only thing I want out of it is the ability to play games with friends. Sure all of the extra stuff is cool, but why would I buy one when I'm not going to use the extra stuff and I have a 360, and when the only new game that I'm really looking forward to is going to be on the 360? [spoiler]Everything I just said is why the new Xbox does not appeal to [b]me,[/b] I don't give a flying crap as to what you think of it or weather or not you like it. If you like it then awesome, I hope you have fun with it. If you think it's stupid then that's awesome, more power to you.[/spoiler]

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                • There are many good features I really like about the console, and some I'm not too keen on but I'm sure I'll grow to like. However, I have a few issues with it. I'm still on the fence between the PS4 and One.

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                • All I can say is it better have some serious game footage at E3 that blows me away because in the end I'm fed up with paying for XBL and PS4 can easily feed my Destiny kick while PC gaming is starting to grow on me. I don't need a glorified Apple TV unit costing me 60.00 a year on top of my existing cable bill when I can get a similar service for free from Sony. Basically I'm not feeling any wow I want that right at the moment.

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                  • Yes, but the question on everyone's mind is, will it be a good GAME console? And so the long wait for E3, release, release hype/backlash, and finally an answer to the question, begins (well, more formally now)

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                      Theoretically, if devs use Cloud, the possibilities are endless. Constantly updating worlds? Sign me up.

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                      • I love how Xbox isn't only for gamers but for literally everyone now. Great choice by MS. It's gonna be a money maker due to gamers, millions of live subscribers and people that want something cool and unique. This will be a great addition to the product market on a global scale. Best thing I've seen so far is no more disks just download and play.

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                        • I found the reveal very unexciting (except the server infrastructure). I am looking to buy a next gen machine for gaming. I already have a system for watching tv, changing channels and switching between the input devices on my television that works problem free. I even yell at my television though I do not have a kinect (mostly during football season). I plan on buying the better [b]gaming[/b] machine, because that is what its purpose will be in my home. The other stuff just does not matter to me.

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                        • Edited by BritLemon: 5/22/2013 4:19:43 AM
                          I think some of the features are pretty cool. I never got the first kinect because it didn't really grab my attention, but this more revised kinect 2.0 looks pretty neat; I like the fact that I will be to instantly switch to something else with just a simple phrase. People are getting mad about the kinect being mandatory to the consoles functioning, but it's being blown out of proportion like everything else from the event. The used game fee and having to connect to XBL once every 24 hour has been debunked and they were only potential options (but it's part of the software, something that can be removed). Also, everyone complaining about the lack of games announced at a[u] console unveiling [/u]is pathetic; it was called a console reveal for a reason. Game reveals will be in abundance come E3, and the new IPs sound exciting. Everyone needs to chill the -blam!- out and stop making out it's a bad console, because it isn't. These rumours going around aren't helping the situation either so everyone should just wait until MS confirms what is true and what is false. EDIT: The fee for used games isn't true. I -blam!-ing knew it.

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                          BTW don't forget the built in game DVR (which the PS4 has as well, but that doesn't detract from its usefulness).

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                        • I think a lot of people seem to have latched onto one gripe they have, and are drowning out the rest of the presentation. It's almost like people want to be disappointed by it. I'm excited about the multitasking more than anything. I can see myself in a game, and pulling up an achievement guide or a map of collectibles in the snap window while playing. Kinect voice control is also something nice. We've seen it begin to be implemented in the 360, but it looks like they've taken a deeper look on how to make the Xbox One easier to navigate and use with Kinect, even while playing a game. I'm also glad that they are claiming that it's quiet. As someone that still has the big white 360, the noise still bothers me. I'm ready for a quiet console.

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                          • The only really good thing going for it right now is Destiny.

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