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1/30/2013 5:30:51 AM
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When I want to say something, I don't use alts.

This is my open letter to whoever's listening. I don't care if you are and I don't care if you aren't. I don't plan to read replies to this thread, or respond to people regarding it. But since this community - which swears it figured out my game years ago - thinks I would use an alt to post my own thoughts for others to read, I figured I'd say what I think under my own name, just to prove a little point. This community is toxic, and it's your fault. Yes, you! You, the member who laughs when someone calls a trans user by a slur or uses "-blam!-" like punctuation in arguments. You, the ninja who turns a blind eye to discrimination and hatred because to stand up to it would be hypocritical, given how discriminatory and hateful you have been yourself, in public and where you thought others couldn't see you. You, the employee who reads feedback and laughs because your own users couldn't possibly have any idea about what they're talking about when they identify problems with their community, and then prides themselves on community interaction. This place is toxic because of all of you. You could fix it, but you don't want to, because it's easier to sit back and claim that real change can't happen on the internet than it is to get up and do something, even if it's just one person at a time. And you know what? That's fine. People get the communities they deserve. If this is what you want out of a community, you're welcome to it. And I get that I'm not the person you want to hear criticisms from. Trust me, I know that by now, you've made it loud and clear. I could make a thread about Hitler being evil and this forum would be full of Holocaust deniers the next day. Whatever, I can handle it. This isn't about me. (Weird, I know.) It's about you. You choose to ignore obvious problems with the site's culture because you think they're too hard to fix, or because you don't care. You choose to be content with the crumbs of affection and consideration Bungie doles out to you once in a blue moon, like puppies who forget they've been kicked when a bone appears in their owner's hand. And that's fine. We forgive a lot from the people and institutions we love. But just because you choose to accept it, doesn't mean everyone has to - and just because some people [i]don't[/i] accept the status quo, doesn't make them butthurt or wrong just because. I didn't post that thread of mine on the mains because I knew it was a message nobody wanted to listen to. I allowed someone else to post it because I knew it was a message that needed to be heard, even if it fell on deaf ears. In news that I'm sure will overjoy most of you, I'm done trying to change things here. But just because I'm tired of dealing with your bullshit (yes, yours!), doesn't mean you have to slam the people who still have a little fight left in them. So many things about this community are broken. Be thankful that there are still people who care enough to want to fix them. Be even more thankful that I'm no longer one of them.

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  • Don't like it here? Well then I sugest you STFU and GTFO! This community is not broken, it's what it is and it's our community! Don't expect that you can change this community to your [i]Utopian[/i] view of what the perfect community would be. Because your view of good, bad, broken and perfect are different then the views of other users on this forum. [i][b]"You have no rights, play nice"[/b][/i]

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    • Why use alts for anything?

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    • Edited by A_dmg04: 1/30/2013 8:22:55 PM
      [url=http://www.bungie.net/en-US/View/community/Forum/Post?id=59714859]Here's a good example of toxicity found in our community[/url] Honestly, the "toxicity" that you find here can be found everywhere. When you put yourself out there the way you have and claimed to enjoy the negative reactions (which you have), it's no wonder you have an internet following that disagrees with your every footstep. Also, you saying "this thread isn't about me" is a complete lie. [quote]This is [b]my[/b] open letter to whoever's listening. [b]I[/b] don't care if you are and [b]I[/b] don't care if you aren't. [b]I[/b] don't plan to read replies to this thread, or respond to people regarding it. But since this community - which swears it figured out [b]my[/b] game years ago - thinks [b]I[/b] would use an alt to post my own thoughts for others to read, [b]I[/b] figured [b]I'd[/b] say what [b]I[/b] think under [b]my own name[/b], just to prove a little point.[/quote]And because I'm bored combing through the text to bold out every self reference (I, Me, I'm, Myself, etc), I'll just quote this portion.[quote]I didn't post that thread of mine on the mains because I knew it was a message nobody wanted to listen to. I allowed someone else to post it because I knew it was a message that needed to be heard, even if it fell on deaf ears. In news that I'm sure will overjoy most of you, I'm done trying to change things here. But just because I'm tired of dealing with your bullshit (yes, yours!), doesn't mean you have to slam the people who still have a little fight left in them. So many things about this community are broken. Be thankful that there are still people who care enough to want to fix them. Be even more thankful that I'm no longer one of them.[/quote] Oh, and the title of this thread too... It's pretty much all about you.

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      • [quote]This isn't about me. [/quote] - Thread title is "When I want to say something, I don't use alts." - Post body contains 24 instances of "I". You're delusional. Seek help.

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      • What do you want out of the community? It's the internet, plenty of people will troll for the sake of lulz. You post something about bullying transgendered people and how it's wrong, plenty of trolls will flock to that thread and try and make you sad/mad, envoke a reaction, which, look at that, they succeeded. Ninjas have no power, they cannot ban users. It is up to you to tailor your experience now. You don't like trolls trans-bashing? Mute those douchebags. What are employees to do? Cater to your every whim when your feelings get hurt? People have opinions, even if they are ignorant, and even if they say they don't like transgendered people, can something really be done to these people? Ban them? For what? They did nothing wrong really, if it's the opinion they hold, o well... And guess what, you can still mute these people who hold a different opinion than you. I feel as if you're not doing the simple thing and muting those who offend you, but you want someone to take action FOR you, to tailor EVERYONE'S experience. You want the trans-bashers, the people who don't hold an unfavorable opinion GONE. That's not how this works. Stop complaining, you tailor your experience, ninjas/employees will not do it for you.

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      • Wort the hell did I just read? Butthurt before my visit? This is impossible.

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      • Oh because you're so perfect lol [quote][b]Posted by jay:[/b] Don't you ever get tired of following people around yelling that they're tools for not having your immense talent for deepthroating? This is boring. I'm out.[/quote] [url=http://www.bungie.net/en-US/View/community/Forum/Post?id=59714859]Go down to Helveck's comment to find this lol[/url]

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        • The butthurt is over 9000!

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        • Edited by Ason Unique: 1/30/2013 6:09:34 PM
          The amount of hypocrisy in the OP is simply astounding. You'd be better off sorting your own shit out rather than complaining about how terrible everyone else is.

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        • [quote] So many things about this community are broken. Be thankful that there are still people who care enough to want to fix them. Be even more thankful that I'm no longer one of them.[/quote]Can't say I ever remember you making threads trying to help the community, mate. Why not try making specific suggestions? You have my ear.

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          • Edited by Spartan Ken 15: 1/30/2013 1:06:27 PM
            Not everyone is going to like or agree with you. If you think the community is "broken", that maybe a problem on your end. Are there people here who are mean or annoying? Yes, but there are many people here whom I enjoy my company with. You seem mad because people reacted negatively to your threads which insult the community and it's members, like this one.

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            • And the realisation of ugly truth hits home. Welcome to my world.

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            • Shit, son.

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            • Don't like the community? Leave.

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            • Lol

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            • Were you seriously that butthurt that you felt the need to make this thread to tell everybody this?

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              • Edited by Verachi: 1/30/2013 5:56:00 AM
                [quote]I don't plan to read replies to this thread, or respond to people regarding it.[/quote] Am I suppose to believe that? [quote]This community is toxic, and it's your fault. Yes, you! [/quote] No u. I don't have a bad time with the community. I've noticed that people that are obnoxious or attention whoreish tend to have a different experience then I do. One person comes to mind that would always piss and moan about people being rude to them. Then you read the garbage that said user posted and you understood why people treated him unkindly. [quote]This isn't about me. (Weird, I know.) It's about you.[/quote] But this is about you. [quote]You choose to ignore obvious problems with the site's culture because you think they're too hard to fix, or because you don't care. [/quote] How do they choose to ignore it? With this new update you have all the tools you need to make your visit more pleasant. Saying they don't care is bullshit. [quote] doesn't make them butthurt or wrong just because.[/quote] You seem butthurt. (I'm not saying that just to be a dick.) [quote]I didn't post that thread of mine on the mains because I knew it was a message nobody wanted to listen to.[/quote] What thread? [quote][/quote] I feel like you did this to yourself. People don't dislike you for no reason.

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                • Couldn't resist.

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                • [quote]This community is toxic,[/quote] This place is a Haven compared to 4chan, 9gag, reddit, facebook, ect. People should learn the difference between true prejudice, and a joke. Seriously....

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                • Edited by Simba Too Cold: 1/30/2013 5:55:03 AM
                  Maybe. just maybe it's because you and your ways are one of the biggest problems. You're not the hero we need right now but you are the defiantly not the bitch we asked for. You're the reason long time members left Sapphire. You're the reason people didn't like the group. You always talked about "detriments" to the Sapphire community well being the biggest one. Sapphire was an amazing place when you had your spas attack and left. You're the problem Jay. Coming from anyone else this thread would have been good and filled with good points. Coming from you it's just hypocritical nonsense.

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                • Jay I don't ever see you post anyway you only create threads.

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                  • Great post Jay. You are 100% correct.

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                  • What problems do you want them to fix?

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