It's all about opinion.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh Whether you believe it or not, realize it or not, that is a fanboy argument. And it's clear that there are too many Marty fanboys on this forum. Halo 4's music is good, great in many respects even. Is it up to Marty's standard? No, because it is going for a different standard, a more cinematic standard. It's not even trying to be Marty, so comparing it to him is just fanboyism."[/quote] The music was okay imo, but it didn't resonate with me. It didn't send shivers up my back like the old themes did. They were just sort of there in the background. There's been times when I've replayed levels just to listen to the music whilst appreciating the setting. There is no compulsion like that with Halo 4 for me. Those standards weren't up to the task imo. Halo was built on inspiration, intrigue and wonder. There was also romanticism and heroics. These are all powerful sentiments, and is what is essentially at the core of Halo, and the music reflected all of this. I have no idea what standards this new music was trying to reflect though. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to its intended purpose. If it worked for you like the others did before in creating a sense of wonder and all that then fair enough, but if it's supposed to be something else then I wonder what that something else is supposed to be.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Andraeus I can not but agree. Halo 4 is made by 'Fans' of Halo, not the Makers of Halo. The campaign for me fell short, especially in the music department, it just lacked that feel that said 'This is Halo'. I actually find the Spartan Ops story more enjoyable than what they have done with the main storyline. And Multiplayer.. .Did we really need more CoD clones? I wan't to play Halo Multiplayer. But this is all nothing but my opinion. Just hope Bungie doesn't let go of their next project if it takes off. [/quote] To the music comment, I will repost a post from a few days ago. "The tracks are deliberately different from past games. Until there is a dictionary that objectively defines what Halo "sounds like," the argument that it "does not sound like Halo" will only ever come off as a fanboy argument. This is because you are obviously expecting it to sound like past games and anything that does not sound like the past games will not "sound like Halo" and therefore be automatically inferior. Whether you believe it or not, realize it or not, that is a fanboy argument. And it's clear that there are too many Marty fanboys on this forum. Halo 4's music is good, great in many respects even. Is it up to Marty's standard? No, because it is going for a different standard, a more cinematic standard. It's not even trying to be Marty, so comparing it to him is just fanboyism." And the game does not play like CoD. If it played like CoD, the core mechanics of the game would play like CoD. Things fundamental to Halo (longer killtimes, arena-styled combat, strafing) are kept present. Everything else are just branches from a core tree. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Madness87 Without Bungie, there would be no Halo. Plus, once the "newness" of Halo 4 wears off, and you'll see it's not as good as people made it out to be. A lot of people who've played longer and better than me also hate the multiplayer. Take a look at the Halogaf threads on Neogaf. You'll see the more they play it, the more they don't like it as well. Bungie wasn't perfect, but I'd still have preferred they got to keep the Halo IP, and that they could revisit it in the future once they felt like it.[/quote] Well your first problem is thinking that Halo was ever owned by Bungie, which it never was. But your other problem is saying "you'll see." The more I play the game the more I love it; 343i did what Bungie never did and actually gave Halo the story it deserved (as well as actually acknowledging the EU), and expanded its boundries in terms of gameplay. Don't project your personal opinions and assume "in time you'll see the game sucks."

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] welford2k8 Bungie you made everything perfect[/quote]So explain why Halo 2, Halo 3, ODST and Reach were disappointing to a lot of fans?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Andraeus Halo 4 is made by 'Fans' of Halo, not the Makers of Halo.[/quote] Some of those "fans" used to work at Bungie.

I can not but agree. Halo 4 is made by 'Fans' of Halo, not the Makers of Halo. The campaign for me fell short, especially in the music department, it just lacked that feel that said 'This is Halo'. I actually find the Spartan Ops story more enjoyable than what they have done with the main storyline. And Multiplayer.. .Did we really need more CoD clones? I wan't to play Halo Multiplayer. But this is all nothing but my opinion. Just hope Bungie doesn't let go of their next project if it takes off.

Without Bungie, there would be no Halo. Plus, once the "newness" of Halo 4 wears off, and you'll see it's not as good as people made it out to be. A lot of people who've played longer and better than me also hate the multiplayer. Take a look at the Halogaf threads on Neogaf. You'll see the more they play it, the more they don't like it as well. Bungie wasn't perfect, but I'd still have preferred they got to keep the Halo IP, and that they could revisit it in the future once they felt like it.

If you REALLY respected Bungie, you would respect their decision to move on from Halo.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] welford2k8 Bungie, you made everything perfect. You what makes halo to what it is now not the crappy halo 4 anyone else agree[/quote] I tried to save your punctuation, but gave up. In short, my answer is no.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] welford2k8 Bungie you made everything perfect[/quote] [i]Insert snort of derision here.[/i]

343 Industries did a remarkable job with Halo 4, and it was Bungie's decision to move on to a new game. Bungie want's to expand beyond Halo and the xbox, and it's a good decision for them. Be happy that Halo is in the hands of people who love the series.