I'm not here to start an argument, I'd like a debate. Personally I feel as though titans are just a little to well of in crucible my reasons for this include the following. 1 - Titans can have a max health stat in the game of around the 203-204 mark I believe ( this would be fine if the Titan wasn't as mobile as the Warlock and Hunter, but they are, so it's an issue). 2 - as stated previously, Titans can run at the same speed as both Hunters and Warlocks in game. 3 - The shoulder charge... I shouldn't even have to mention that. 4 - Titans have the Greatest jump in the game, which along with the sprint for a 'bulky' class seems a bit, odd Imo. 5 - Titans arguably have the best grenades in the game, especially when coupled with the double nades gained from the AT chest. 6 - The perk which allows you to run with a shield in front of you 'juggernaut' is really dirty, you're basically unbeatable if you run it with a shotgun. 7 - "The fist of panic" I understand all supers are supposed to be powerful, but if I double jump in the air and are still in the hit range of it, it's a little ridiculous. Thanks for giving it a read! Leave a comment letting me know your thoughts or just give it a bump, thanks again! :) Edit - I have maxed a Titan subclass, it was striker as well. Please stop with the childish assumptions that I haven't, thank you.