Holy hell! I keep getting put in these raid groups with people who have the weapon drops and armor but they just keep screwing up. Horrible communication, Failure to keep an eye on boomers, and Failure to kill the oversoul. Wow I'm done man. And I waited all this time after these patches to make sure I could get the true raid experience.... This is why Cheesing was bad to begin with. Now we got people running around with gear they weren't suppose to have. FFS. Edit: I'm glad to see there are others who share this experience. It's one thing if you don't know how to do the raid and need to learn just say so. Don't lie about it. Edit: I knew cheesing was going to affect the community one way or another. It was only a matter of time. Edit: Look guys, I get it, some of you cheese and learned to beat it legit. All I'm asking for is honesty and the willing to work and learn if you don't know how to beat Crota. Work with the team. Don't just up and leave cause you died. Edit: wow guys we made trending. Thanks for all of you who shared your experiences. Edit: LMAO I tried it again with another group and one guy sounded like he was smoking a bowl in the background. And a 32 grabbed the sword, died , and raged quit. Wow, haha. Edit: I finally got Crota down! Wow! Got Blackhammer wohoo! Edit: Guys/Gals, Thank you for your advice in finding a Clan. I followed through and found a nice group.