[quote]Don't really mind the change to the blast radius as long as it's not too drastic* but I'd rather see the damage levels stay as they are. Health packs are there primarily to deal with grenade damage so just make sure they're available on all gametypes (they aren't by default) instead.[/quote]The problem is that someone can chuck a grenade at you, you finish them off with a 3sk, then it hurts you. After that battle, which you won, you recover all your shields. While you're on the way to the health pack, some guy throws a grenade at your feet. Bam. You're dead and that guy got a kill for throwing 1 grenade. Seems quite undeserved of a kill if you ask me. [quote]*I'm thinking of vehicle play here. I'm guessing it's not really possible with the editors but if it is, it'd be nice to see the damage drop off with distance (your primary reason for the change) but for the 'push back' effect to stay the same for the sake of not messing up vehicle balance. Halo 2 decreased the potency of frag grenades and ended up with the worst vehicle play in the series.[/quote]Damage already does drop off with distance by default and the push back is the same on the vehicles. The main focus of decreasing the grenade's potency is to stop it from permanently (Without a health pack) leaving you with just enough health to be killed by another grenade after fully recovering. [quote]Plasma grenades are pretty bad in HPC and the net code certainly plays a part in that. Nobody uses them unless they're just spamming.[/quote]Meh, forgot about even doing this. It looks like I can't really do it anyways, so it doesn't matter. I agree with you, though. [quote]Is there any kind of tracking option that'd allow you to make getting a stick slightly less hit and miss? Perhaps increasing their initial velocity would help slightly.[/quote]I think that changing the velocity won't sync correctly for people who have the vanilla maps so it wouldn't work. :/ [quote]Remove the Ghost's stun effect (not sure how well it'd sync) and increase the accuracy of the rocket's hogs rockets but greatly reduce their splash radius. Gearbox had planned to make both of these changes (minus the splash radius bit) in a CE patch but never got around to it.[/quote]Sadly enough, both of those things would not sync properly. I tried it out a while back when trying to make the Plasma Rifle act more like the "Plasma Gun" from Quake III Arena. Both the stun effect and accuracy did not sync properly to my friend who had vanilla maps. [quote]Fair enough. I don't think this will make much difference to play either way.[/quote]It has, actually. I've been playing a lot of CTF with it and it changes it a lot. For the better, mind you. You have to be tactical to actually land a kill with it, but with this you [i]can[/i] actually do it. The melee was absolutely useless before due to the netcode. [quote]Other thoughts: I'm aware that some of the changes I've proposed appear contradictory in some respects; using overshields to give the underdog a boost yet not allowing for them to have an advantage with grenades when they're dying frequently. My argument to this is that the places where I've recommended giving the underdog a leg up are the places where they're probably the underdog because of poor luck or bad map design.[/quote]I feel that giving the underdog a leg up in any situation isn't really all that great. The entire idea of overshields/power weapons goes towards rewarding you for doing well by making it easier to kill opponents. If you take that idea and evolve it further you get things like killstreaks from Call of Duty. While most will argue with me on this point, I'm convinced that this is the truth. Everyone should always be on a balanced playing field. [i]If[/i] there are problems with spawn placements, I [i]could[/i] change them to make for better gameplay instead, though. [quote]Anyway, apologies for the poorly written stream of consciousness. ;)[/quote]It was very helpful! Thank you!