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12/3/2014 10:33:00 PM
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So I finally get to 30, and the next expansion is basically Bungie flipping me the bird...

All that work - all that grindy farming, strike after strike, oracle cp's, etc etc, just to get to 30, and now in order to progress any further I will have to reset my exotic, and get new raid gear, of which I will need to level up via grindy raid BS. Oh, but now I can trade marks for materials! So now I won't have to farm planets! Joy! And I might as well use my marks for material, considering Bungie is now going to make uber-legendary gear in the tower require a vanguard/crucible/faction rank before you can purchase. I hit rank 5 on Dead orbit and New Monarchy - now I feel stupid! I should have waited before dumping all that time into bounties and patrols and waited - I could have had 4 commendations for all that work. Any luck on getting those commendations retroactively? Probably not - that would make sense! I have a bud who is Vanguard rank 14 - boy did he waste his time! Not to mention now all Level 32's will look THE SAME, with just a different shader on to somehow be "unique" - how about you let us actually increase the light level of gear we may prefer instead of forcing the same gear on everyone? You like the look of that Exodus armor? Good, wear it - and be 29 forever. For a game that cost an ass-load of time and money to make, could they make it any more -blam!-ing bland? Just thinking about turning on my console tonight is making me think of cheap, generic vanilla ice-cream....

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  • At least you got to level 30 ... I have 3 chars at level 29 ... for each I miss one RAID piece... and you say well how many times did you do the Raid... well at least 7 times per character with at least 2 of those on HARD with each character... and NO level 30 for me... Yes the droppings of gear in the RAID SUCKS BUNGIE .. I realize its RANDOM... but come on after doing so many RAIDS not 1 character I can bring up to 30 ... that really upset me ... Ive seen people do one normal raid and get boots gloves and body armor buy one gold helmet lvl 30... I did more then 20 RAIDS over all my characters NOT ONE LVL 30. At once I had 4 chest pieces from the Raid for my TITAN... and that was all... didnt get anything else. And you say you waste time ... LOL ... all my chars have high Vanguard Rank !!! ALL OF EM !!! Almost all my exotics are MAXED ... now I can start upgrading them ALL OVER if I upgrade them... coz how I read it upgrading fully upgraded exotic or one that hasnt been done SHIT to will have the same result a NOT UPGRADED slightly higher EXOTIC... so in short.. .the more you did... the more you get screwed... c Is this FAIR ??? No of course it isnt... more then 100 Ascendent Energie left... about 90 Shards left... are they of any use ??? ... so much playing time to get to level 30... I like raids... but after about 10 Raids I started to just feel disappointment after disappointment when recieving the same armor piece over and over again which I didnt need... I would have still played the Raid at level 30... I wouldnt have played it for that chest any more and actually enjoy it a lot more ... now I just feel screwed every time I finish one again... ow great again that chest piece I allready got 5 off... and still no boots... great ... fun... So if you are at LEVL 15 in vanguard... YOU SHOULD GET THE COMMENDATIONS THAT BELONG WITH IT !!!!!!! I see why bungie is doing this... they want this to be a fun game for everyone ... mediocrity is key... if your better then average... you get screwed... if you are worse then average you get lucky... it sucks... but thats how game makers try and have a game fun for as large a fanbase as they can... Bungie... stop making players feel they are getting screwed over constantly... we pay for the game, the extra content... at least stop screwing us over by taking away or making useless what we earned by playing. Let me give you a couple of TIPS for FREE 1. If an exotic is allready maxed and you UPGRADE it ... YOU SHOULDNT HAVE TO UPGRADE IT AGAIN 2. If you do the raid for x time ... you SHOULDNT GET THE SAME RAID SHIT UNLESS YOU ALLREADY HAVE ALL RAID GEAR 3. IF YOU HAVE SHITLOADS OF SHARD/ENERGY YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRADE IT FOR THE NEW SHARDS/ENERGY ... TO BE FAIR I THINK THE NEW SHARDS/ENERGY MAKE PLAYERS FEEL SCREWED... STICK WITH A CURRENCY ... AND MAKE IT MORE EXPENSIVE TO UPGRADE! 4. IF YOU ARE AT LVL 15 IN VANGUARD RANK ... GIVE PEOPLE 15 COMMENDATIONS... DONT SCREW EVERYONE OVER BY RESETTING THEM ! 5. DONT RESET PEOPLES RANK OR WOTEVER TO TRY AND LEVEL PLAYERS, THAT IS NOT FAIR... THEY PLAYED FOR IT, THEY EARNED IT !

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  • I have to say, I don't know why this is such a big deal... I mean look at any other game that is loot based. If new harder content is launched, the new drops and gear are more beast than your old stuff. Pretty much every other game would make you just trash your old stuff or hand it down to an alt toon. Take WoW for example. Launch content gets cleared, after months of grinding you may get a full set of that coveted Tier # armor. Then comes the next content patch, with the new raid and Tier #+1 is released. You want to stay beastly and have the best stuff? you now grind the new content until you get a full set of Tier #+1 and you trash your old stuff for materials. No option to improve Tier # to be as good as Tier #+1 because you prefere the looks of it or because you worked really hard to get it and level it up. You just did it because that was the rules of the game. Here they are letting you keep your gear. You don't have to reset it, but if you do you can extend it's relevents in the game. It gets treated like new gear in that you have to rank it up again, just like you would actual new gear, but you can keep it if you like the perks or the looks. If I didn't need to get new gear with new harder content, my motivation to clear said content is reduced. In my opinion they are not really screwing anyone. They are not doing anyone favors. It is about on par with needing new gear, which is the entire driving force of this game and if they took that away what is the fvcking point. They just let you keep the cosmetics or perks you liked about the old gear. They are not going to let you hit the new max level easy. That would be retarded. It is fair to everyone. Everyone has to do it. What I hope they don't do is start this way, then change it because of whinny babies to something easier, there by screwing over those who took the hard road at the start.

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    • So now the question is "Are commendations the ONLY thing you get for faction level ups?"

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      • WTF IS GOING ON BUNG AND WHY IN THE FCUK IS XUR SELLING THE PLAN C AGAIN WTF BRING THE GHORN BACK BUNG MAY NEED TO START MAKING GAMES FOR XBOX AGAIN Now no exotic engrams from XuR WTF bung no wonder halo sucked!

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      • Like I said before....keep following that carrot. Your a perfect example of what Bungie hopes is there player base. Move on to another game that actually rewards you as you progress and doesn't take away earned things. Love how they just screw over player base. But if your a carrot follower then this is the best game you could ever get.

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      • Light levels are a bad idea. It failed in LOTR: online and it's failing here. Just gives yet another subject for toxicity. Bungie really needs to stop this mechanic.

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      • Welcome to a grind for gear MMO. Enjoy or not, its up to you.

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      • Thats some hardcore qq dawg

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      • What exactly do you want ??? To never have to touch the game again so you don't have to level higher ?

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        • Ditch this turd of a game and get a better game. I did. Lots of great games out.

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          • So many cry babies .... I have never been on a forum with this many cry babies ... jesus christ I will use the lords name in vain because these whingers crying about nerfing, being lvl 30, commendations etc are so spoiled.

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            • Edited by Penhalion Wolfe: 12/5/2014 2:26:37 PM
              At the very least everything past rank 3 should be retro-awarded. Technically you've already earned the reputation. It's completely silly that those who DID level the factions and vanguard are at a disadvantage to those who didn't bother. A vision of the Bungie head designer kicking a poor player into a bottomless pit and shouting "THIS IS BUNGIE!" as they fall to their deaths suddenly crossed my mind. They seem to have that little respect or regard for their players. I suspect that, like me, people were giving bungie one last chance by waiting for the DLC. To be told you need to re-grind to get back to where you currently are will be that final kick in the chops that we need to move on and say "ho hum we tried to like it" Edit: If Bungie are truly trying to respect their players then the Raid guns from VOG should be leveled up to match their Crota's End equivalents (Tier 1). The raid gear should also be boosted to be equivalent to Iron Banner Tier 1 level 31 gear too, even if that means a gear progress reset. It's just plain nonsense if the gear won from the new iron banner is now going to be better than gear obtained from a raid!

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              • Your late as hell to the party buddy. You got dlc coming round the corner and your complaining? Get out of here scrub. People have been 30 for months, we are the ones who deserve to complain. Dumb noob

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                • Yea I spent countless hours in this game, then I get two characters to rank 5 and one rank 4 in Iron banner thinking im doing something getting the IB gear...and all of this is already a waste of time, unreal.

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                  • No Im flipping you the bird, wanna see it again?....Missed it? Here it is again....I can take a picture of it for you if that makes it better for you.

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                  • You're gonna be grinding anyway dumbass, it makes the game not get boring by adding new levels u jumpsuit -blam!-

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                  • Edited by Azreal80: 12/5/2014 3:21:44 AM
                    Congrats you just finished the marathon ....oh well nope sorry ..yes that was a finish line but actually you need to run another 26 miles. You can wear you old shoes but they suck now so how about trading them in for new ones ...(at a cost of course) also if you buy the new shoes you go back 6 miles. Sure is fun running. [spoiler] Or just wait and play this silly hamster wheel when the beta is over and the entire real game has been released. [/spoiler]

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                  • While most of the frustration leveled at Bungie and Destiny is legitimate, what you're describing is basically just every MMO ever. Welcome to the Skinner box, enjoy your stay.

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                    • Rank 18 vanguard working on 19... I know your feels

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                    • You don't play a lot of mmorpg do you.....don't put so much effort into this game and let it flow

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                    • wait hold on. didnt every single one of you get mail when you lvled up your faction. you got purple gear or upgrade material each time you lvl up. how you complain about lvling up. mind you you didnt mind theis lvling or reforging when iron banner was around. as a matter of fact u reforge your gear and weapons even easier now with less ascendant mats then from beforem I am trying to fogure out the grip here bwcause it does not sound like one

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                      • Doesn't it make sense? Everyone used to complain that they had nothing to work towards. Now with the new level cap, everyone just wants the most powerful gear handed to them. What the -blam!- is wrong with you? It's not like they're sending your character back to level 1. Hell, they're not even [b]forcing[/b] you to upgrade your exotics. Simply giving you the option.

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                        • Now you know better than to try. If you wait until the house of wolves expansion before you try to get to the max level, you'll be able to enjoy the game until Destiny 2 comes out. Then you can start the grind over again with three new characters. Or maybe we'll be able to port our existing characters over for a low onetime fee (but we'll have to level them from scratch again and the new classes will still be better than those we bring over). Full disclosure: I already had Microsoft refund my season pass before griping here.

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                          • Exotic resets is such bull crap. Vote if you think it's fair or not: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/82315866/0/0

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                          • You're an idiot. I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to answer this post correctly.

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                            • Exactly I agree completely. Its a broken concept that Bungie doesn't realize (my post for my topic below) I mean I understand the concept of grinding and I have no problem with it. I don't find it fair with these random loot rolls. From people running the raid 100 times, leveling two of the same class to 29, only trying to get one more piece of gear?. Then I've seen people who are new to the raid, run it three times and they get all pieces to reach level 30. I would feel if Bungie still wants people to run their raid a lot by making loot rolls random. But shouldn't there be a bounty where if you've killed the Templar and Atheon 10 Times together you can pick between one piece of gear? That's all I have to say, just a concept for Bungie to take into consideration. I know the new raid is coming out and plenty of people will be able to do it at 29 regardless. Will it be the same for the next raid? Leveling two characters of the same class to 31 for one piece of gear.. Sincerely, another Guardian grinding for one more piece :) Smetona Lv 29 Hunter Lv 29 Warlock Lv 27 Titan

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