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Ahamkara

[b]Edit:[/b]Pronunciation: aa-hem-car I talk to my Hindu friend and this is how its pronounced, to him, the way he studies Hinduism; it refers to great and powerful, full of anger. Not bad anger, just like a crazy kind of rage with an all knowing sense. So, we aren't quite sure yet what the Ahamkara are, exactly. What little we know, is that they're rumored to be dragons, possibly. What do we know about the Ahamkara? Well, lets go by the "Ghost Fragment: Warlock" grimoire entry. Why did I set her on the trail? You try and try to explain, but no one ever understands. No one who's not a Warlock. Who hasn't spent a dozen years scouring the ruins for one string of symbols, one clean code, one black talon. Titans just make a hmphing noise, if they've stayed awake. Hunters clean their nails with their knives and look at you like you've grown a third eye. But when you've spent your life searching through arcana for ancient power, you have the urge to reach out and educate others. Especially if you've had one too many. Nah, she's not my type at all. We've played dice, cards, war games, you know, the usual stuff. I'd never tried to show off before. I don't know what came over me. I had a broken vertebrae in my pocket that I'd borrowed from - yes, borrowed, I was going to put it back - what do you think you are, my conscience? It was a fossil, that means mineral replacement, a rock, basically. They can survive a few hours in my pocket. Do shut up. The Cryptarchs weren't going to miss it. Everyone knows the Ahamkaras were hunted to extinction. There's nothing to be afraid of anymore. Think of how mysterious this system is, I said. How much life sprang up when the Traveler came. Like the Ahamkara. Do you know the legends? The dragon that made promises? And I pulled out the fossil with a flourish - She pulled out her knife and started to pick the dirt from her nails. That set me off. You could never have brought down one of these, I said. Ever. Not the greatest Hunter, not the brawniest Titan. Her eyes narrowed. She said, Oh? Is that so? And I saw right then that she wasn't going to pass on the challenge. So, from that we have learned of "The dragon that made promises", and that all the Ahamkara are believed to be extinct. We also see that "the greatest hunter, nor the brawniest titan" could have brought a Ahamkara down, meaning the warlocks were the ones to hunt them to (what is believed to be) extinction. We also see that the warlock behaved abnormally around the vertebrae of an Ahamkara, "borrowing" it, and using it to "show off", as if it had compelled him to do so. This is further evidenced by the exotic helmet, "Skull of Dire Ahamkara". Reality is the finest flesh, oh bearer mine. And are you not…hungry? "oh bearer mine", as if the bones are speaking to you directly. "Reality is the finest flesh", that's a very intriguing sentiment, especially given the Warlock class grimoire card: Warrior-scholars of the Light, Warlocks devote themselves to understanding the Traveler and its power. A Warlock mind is an arsenal of deadly secrets, balanced between godhood and madness. On the battlefield, those secrets can shatter reality itself. So warlocks have a tangible understanding of reality, and the bones of a dead dragon seem to be (attempting) to convince you that you are hungry, and reality is quite tasty.. perhaps asking you to shatter reality itself, and bend you to its will for some dark purpose. Now, Warlocks being the slayers of the Ahamkara, it makes sense they'd have a Ahamkara exotic. However, the Hunters actually have one, too! It's the Young Ahamkara's Spine. Give me your arm, oh bearer mine. Let me help you fill the world with teeth. Reality is delicious, and let me help you fill the world with teeth. Interesting sentiments, which are made all the more interesting when you discover the Warlock exotic "Voidfang Vestments" "YOU WILL DREAM OF TEETH AND NOTHING ELSE" - scratched behind a buckle So the Ahamkara want us to feast upon reality, quite literally. I don't have a great understanding of the Void yet, so someone will have to help me fill in the gaps, there. Then there's also the Great Ahamkura Hunt, from Ghost Fragment: Legends 3 The Great Ahamkara Hunt After great deliberation it was determined that the Ahamkara be made extinct. It was not an easy decision. Power had been obtained from the bargains, and the City needed power. Knowledge had been gleaned, and the Ahamkara knew answers to questions no one had known to ask. But the price was too high. And no edict or forbearance seemed to stop Guardians from seeking them out, driven by hope, or vengeance, or despair. The call had to be silenced. So the Great Hunt did its work. And thus the Ahamkara were made extinct, their call silenced, their solipsistic flatteries erased, their great design - if it ever existed - broken. Of this you can be assured, oh reader mine. So the Ahamkara had forbidden knowledge, which the Warlocks would surely seek out. It makes sense they would be targeted. Notice the "oh reader mine"? So the Ahamkara aren't truly extinct after all, we were just all lead to believe so. Here's what we've gleamed so far: Ahamkara are dragons, with forbidden knowledge. Death seems to be no end to them, and their bones (possibly?) contain power over guardians. They were thought to be extinct, but clearly aren't. They are (possibly?) creatures of the void, to whom reality is a delicacy. And to my knowledge, there is no Ahamkara titan exotic, either. Very, very interesting. [UPDATE1] As Muirenne points out: In Venus when the sun goes down, (unless that was just random on my end) you can see them either up in the sky or down in the cliffs/ravines. But Venus isn't the only place, one or two can also be seen farting about around the tower. http://i.imgur.com/bHQtt5n.jpg[1] http://i.imgur.com/5D96uQX.jpg[2] The ones we see are just tiny little guys. When they fly near something, it's easy to gauge distance and size, especially if you zoom in on them. They are most likely a generic, fairly unintelligent species of flying lizards with an unhealthy habit of clipping through objects. The dragons can be seen in-game, flying around, even around the tower. Considering we know the Ahamkara had dealings with the tower before, and that great deals had to be made, it actually makes a lot of sense that they'd be keeping a close eye on the Tower itself. One has to wonder what was traded in order to gain the power to defend ourselves, however. [UPDATE2] Also, SilensPhoenix has an interesting theory about why the titans don't have their own Ahamkara Exotic: Titans were of no use to the ahamkara, they do not have access to the power of solar light. Which is further given credence, as pointed out by Flash_Hunter, that unreleased Warlock exotic gloves, the "Claws of Ahamkara" have a very interesting flavor text: One more for you, Exotic Warlock gauntlets: Claws of Ahamkara : "Look at all this life, oh bearer mine. There is so much left to burn... " Possibly to be part of the first expansion pack loot. There is also a lot of interesting hidden meaning behind the names. As pointed out by VoxusNemo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahamkara[1]Ahamkara is a sanskrit word. It truly is interesting to see the Sanskrit/Indian influences in Destiny. eg: Ahamkara, Pujari,etc which, as pointed out by echof0xtrot: fits perfectly with the solipsism, nice find I'll just post the autowikibot definitions here too, to save time: Ahamkara: Ahaṃkāra (अहंकार) is a Sanskrit term that is related to the ego and egoism - that is, the identification or attachment of one's ego. The term "ahamkara" comes from an approximately 3,000 year-old Vedic philosophy, where Ahaṃ refers to the concept of the Self or "I" and kāra refers to the concept of "any created thing" or "to do". The term originated in Vedic philosophy over 3,000 years ago, and was later incorporated into Hindu philosophy, particularly Saṃkhyā philosophy. Ahamkara is one of the four parts of theantahkarana (inner organ) described inHindu philosophy. The other three parts are Buddhi, Citta and Manas. In the Uttara Mimamsa or vedanta branch of Hindu philosophy, even though it is not discussed in great detail in the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna says to Arjun that ahamkara must be removed - in other words, it should be subordinated to the lord. The reason for this is that the Self is not (cannot be) present when one is in a state of nirvana. Solipsism: Solipsism (i/ˈsɒlɨpsɪzəm/; from Latin solus, meaning "alone", and ipse, meaning "self") is the philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist. As anepistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external worldand other minds cannot be known, and might not exist outside the mind. As ametaphysical position, solipsism goes further to the conclusion that the world and other minds do not exist. [b]Edit:[/b]Dragons breath grimoire From the labs of Feizel Crux and Victor Lomar comes another shoulder assault offering built to match the incendiary fury of a legendary beast — or at least classic depictions of it.  Carrying three rockets, each equipped with Solar Flare detonators, its power is believed to far outmatch those of the mythical flying monster, but we're still hoping an actual showdown between the two will put an end to that argument.

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