So me and my friends got bored and wanted to search the out side the "raid" in the waking ruins and campus 9 and endless steps etc. After we activated the spire we spotted a random lil chest and opened it - it was a Venus chest. We then had the idea of finding a new raid chest outside the vault so we continued. After about 10 or so chests (all spirit bloom) my friend found one and before we could all get there he opened it and on the screen it said he had found ascendant energy (he got 3) After 4 - 5 secs it despawned... We were all so gob smacked that we continued. But after another 20 mins no other "raid" chests had been opened. This chest we found was just behind you when you spawn on a pillar... We then quit and activated the spire again... And after 5 mins and 5 or so chests later the same friend opened another chest (he still didnt wait) and he received the last word hand cannon but it didnt say anything in the comments like it should... The chest also despawned within a short time and I saw it myself despawn. This 2nd chest was not far from the first one and it was opened by the same person twice... I'm unsure when, why, what, who or how it spawns but its random... Out of the 2 times we tried this the same person got rewards both times. When we activated the spire we DID let the vex take control once (one guy went afk??) so I guess the control pad sync things don't come into play but I haven't tried this a third time just yet. Please try this and while all this sounds random, sketchy and fake its not... If it does work for you please tell more people... And I am unsure if the spire has to be activated first??? Tip: when looks for the chests look on sides of wall or on roofs and In caves and WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO GET THERE... FFS Edit: I'm on Ps4