STOP, read before voting. I think it's pretty safe to say that we all understand that Nightfall strikes and Raids are meant to be very difficult challenges, correct? But it seems to me that Bungie may have gotten a bit overzealous with this as both often require very skilled and high level players to resort to rather demeaning tactics that sap the fun right out of the game for most people. There is a harsh line between challenging and punishing. Therefore I present this challange to the employees of Bungie. "I challenge the employees of Bungie to provide video evidence of the following: 1. Complete a Nightfall strike without using tactics that include exploits or camping in areas enemies won't/can't enter/attack. 2. Complete a Raid, once on both difficulty levels (normal and hard), without using tactics that include exploits or camping in areas enemies won't/can't enter/attack." To define an "exploit": Any tactic, strategy, or maneuver that completes, ignores, or circumvents a challenge or enemy that was not intended to be bypassed in such a way such that Bungie's knowledge of said exploit would call for immediate changes to be made to prevent players from executing said exploit. No hiring "pro" players, all fireteams must be comprised of Bungie employee personally. If Bungie can successfully complete both challenges then no one on these forums has anything to complain about in terms of Destiny being "too hard." Do you, the community, also wish to challenge Bungie? Yes or No, vote now. I also want to state that this has not been posted with any malice towards Bungie, I simply want to see them prove or disprove that such tactics are not necessary to successfully complete the higher level content of Destiny.