Okay I'm pretty sure the raid has screwed me one too many times now. After finishing the Vault of Glass on hard difficulty I returned with more ascended materials to level a full set of raid gear... which I don't have! Seriously, an hours worth of playing the raid and this is what I get? This is what WE get for completing what Bungie say's is their hardest challenge? I say no, this is not worth it at all. Hell, the person in my fireteam when we completed it was only level 28 and earned two gauntlets and boots while the rest of us gained nothing but crap. If they seriously expect us to do the raid they need to change the drop rates badly, because at this rate I seriously don't see myself earning the rest of my raid gear with the way it is. Because of the RNG I have to pray to god that I will gain my next piece of raid gear that will never be awarded to me, and to be fair Bungie, people were not just pushing Atheon off the map due to them wanting to get the raid done and to make it easier, they were pushing him off for the fact that we get NOTHING in return for completing it, to show that your drop system in the raid is complete shit. "What's that you say? You wanted your raid helmet and boots you've always wanted? How about a ship you've earned four times, or a shader that you've earned a billion times over?" By completely overlooking what players can earn in the raid out of the 20 or more different weapons which many are exotics and raid weapons an gear you have screwed over all of us believing, "Oh, lets add ascended materials to the drop table so players can earn them in the raid." NO ONE WANTS ASCENDED MATERIALS IN THE RAID!!!! Seriously if I wanted materials for my armor an weapons I would have went an done the daily, weekly and the nightfall on all my characters in one day and earned all my materials just like that. We know that the reason why their in the raid is for us to use them on our new gear we get that, but when your like me who has gotten ALL materials and no weapons and armor by the end you can see their is a problem with your game, you can't just turn a blind eye and say thats just the way the game is because its not! So I ask you Bungie, if your truly want to make us happy and feel rewarded for beating your toughest challenge then you need to ACTUALLY reward us. This is what I'm sure all of the community wishes you to do, yes this sounds like I'm going off on a rant or I'm bitching but its gone too far... We can only hope you learn from your mistakes and fix this by the time Crota's End is released, otherwise will all be going through the same crap over an over. And if you truly do read our words and you can really hear us then do something about it. Its time to nut up and take it upon yourselves to set things right, all eyes are on you. Edit: Those who read this I want you to express how much the raid has done this to you. Let us know if you share the pain an misfortune that we all share from this ridiculous excuse for a challenge, let your voice be heard so one day Bungie can actually hear our pleas.