Give me a reason to play PvP. Edit: Here I will post the most popular answers and my response to them. "Bounties" -The bounties are more of a chore than a reason to play. You grind bounties for little reward. I'll go as far to say that bounties encourage you to play in ways you dislike i.e. get _ kills with _ weapon. Bungie, keep your bounties. "For fun" -It is fun... for maybe a game or two. But then you realize there's only a few game types to choose from. The terrible maps do not help either. "For marks/gear" -The gear is next to useless. RNG is horrible in crucible. Equal or better gear can be bought from vanguard. "To win" -Win what, exactly? The match? No point really. There's no difference in loot win or lose, save a couple useless crucible marks. No risk of gaining or losing rank. Winning just doesn't matter. "Don't play it if you don't like it" -That's not the issue. I love pvp. I couldn't stop playing halo 3 multiplayer. Even on Reach, although not as much, I invested may hours into. The reason being that there was a point in winning. There was a [b]ranking[/b] system. Even Reach attempted to remain competitive with the arena. But Destiny doesn't have a competitive bone in it's body. Also, even if I didn't enjoy pvp, exotic bounties force players into the crucible. Even those that want no part of it. So not playing it just isn't an option for some. Edit 2: Some people have figured out the true purpose of this post. It's to lay out the things that need fixing in PvP. Some people recommend straight up avoiding it because of the issues. So here's something we can do to show our opinions on how to make PvP more enjoyable as well as more competitive. -Add a competitive ranking system. -Make PvP exclusive items more powerful (somewhat similar to raid gear maybe? ) -Take out RNG. Instead, give out an appropriate number of crucible marks to match how well you played. -Balance the maps. -Add more game types. -Make bounties worth it. Make some more creative bounties instead of the usual grind. Please feel free to contribute to the list. Maybe with enough support Bungie will realize how disappointed the majority of the community is with the PvP.