[i]Maybe i should change the title to "Will the patch destroy the hardmode raid for casuals, unexperienced players, spare time gamers and future starters?" I think the main idea of the patch is to prevent us from cheesing and pushing. But in fact its a sole punishment of all the mentioned above bc hardcore / longtime / experienced players will keep on exploiting. [/i] [spoiler]I am one of them. I dont like being told how to play a game.[/spoiler] [b]Issue 1: Teleporting and weapon switching[/b]. In order to succeed in the hard mode raid and play it quickly without dying over and over again you need specific roles and specific gear. If you are the player who fights the oracles you need an anti oracle weapon and a rocmet launcher. If you stay outside and fight the supplicants it is a completely different weapon set you want to use (auto rifle, shotgun, handcannon and machine gun) If you do not know your role, if you do get teleported altough you planned on fighting the supplicants you need to adapt. You need to CHANGE YOUR WEAPONS. But that is the problem. Destiny is a game where it is impossible to change your gear during a fight. [b]Issue 2: Experience and Time[/b]. At this very moment it is possible to carry one or two underleveled players through the normal mode. In the future those two could -blam!- it up in the boss fight so why bother taking them with you anyway? I will not waste my time any longer and explain the whole mechanics to new players. RNG will decide who will be teleported so i can not risk the whole raid / the time of the other players by taking unexperienced players with me. I could be wrong but I think 95% of the players who havent already completed the raid are not going to make it in the future. No lvl 28-29 no raid. No experience in raiding no raid. No raid gear no raid. [b]Issue 3: Trust[/b]. Players are quoting early statements where you tell us that you want us to play the game and develop our own strategies. We do not trust you anymore bungie. Every patch is a slap in our faces. [b] You fix strategies but not connection errors. You spend time on nerfing weapons but not on really annoying bugs.[/b]You listen to the whining 20-25 hours played pvp community but not the 150+ pve majority who is your only chance of surviving. I am utterly disappointed. Tl;dr [b]My point is that this patch will make it so much harder for people who are already struggling with finding a team or completing the raid.[/b] And be honest you dont learn how to play by failing over and over. You need experienced players to show you the way. [b]Edit1[/b]: It is nice that so many people are giving feedback and voting. That shows me this is a matter which needs to be discussed. Just to make it clear. My team can cheese the hard raid until the boss mode without any problem [b]but there are so many bugs within the raid which should be adressed before patching it to make it harder.[/b] I am referring to situations where only 2 people are being teleported, bugs with the portal, heavy ammunition reload bugs, minotaurs getting health etc. I personally prefer of being able to switch weapons and have different sets. Not everyone has the nice raid weapons yet (i have got 6 visions of confluences and thats it). [b]Edit[/b] [b]2[/b]: To those people who do not get that i care about the casuals and new players. I do not need strategic or weapon tips but thank you. Let me just quote a fellow gamer: [spoiler] Fix the templar platforms. As if we could care less .. eploit the big stones and steps beside the edges. Oracle buffing? Lol yeah. We just sit at the spawning point and ICEBREAK the shit out of the game. Annoying templar? Yeah sure. Why shoot his shield down if you can just push him off with grenades? The templar tries to teleport. It failed. Fix the teleporting? Yeah we use 6 warlocks. Atheon keeps on falling. [/spoiler]