I've completed the raid 4 times on normal legit no cheesing. If bungie feels the need to fix the raid they should fix the loot drops. I have 4 chatterwhite shaders... And have yet to receive a single weapon from atheon. I think atheon should guarantee chatterwhite and at least one other non ascendent item. I hate the feeling of beating him and gaining nothing but a useless shader that I literally can't use because we can only have 3 characters. That's just my thoughts, maybe I've been getting unlucky or have offended RNGuses somehow.