I want to say first, just so all of you kids who don't read and spend your time raging at people for the wrong reason to feel superior, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE BABY BUMPERS. WE ALL KNEW THAT PUSHING A BOSS OFF THE EDGE IN A COMBAT PUZZLE WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE A LEGITIMATE STRATEGY. I for one have only used this a few times, and not with my core raid team, only with inexperienced/incompetent players that I was tired of watching fail time after time. I'm not even that mad about the teleport patch. Yeah, it's going to make it a compete clusterduck at first, but soon we will find ways to communicate who's in the portal and who has to pick up the relic. I for one plan to assign the team numbers 1-6 based on how well the can play relic/dps oracles/dps atheon. Better relic players get assigned higher numbers, better oracle/atheon killers get higher numbers. Once in the portal, everyone says their number, if you're the highest you grab the relic, and then everything is back to normal, mostly. Hell, it even gives us a longer time to dps atheon without having to worry about leaving early to get back. The problem I have with the patch is that they are patching things that make the fight easier, but ignoring all the glitches that make the boss fight easier. My team has found ways around these glitches so that we aren't hurt that much, but some still force us to wipe. There's the whole walking through the portal to end up back on the same "map" you left Atheon being able to damage you on the inside of the relic bubble Only 2 players being teleported No relics spawning, then all of them spawning at the same time, effectively dooming you, the only glitch we haven't been able to get around. I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting right now, but seriously, there is not a single word about fixing these, just fixing an exploit that half the community seems to love, and patching the key part of the whole fight, which nobody had a problem with.