WOW, they fix the cave, yes fix, but let me start of by saying I never had a problem with other people doing what they were doing, it didn't affect me, so crack on, were my thoughts. But hey ho. It's patched, and good. Done, dusted. Get the hell over it. NOW the forums are even more full of people complaining! They stopped giving ascendant shards for the queen pieces...GOOD, again! Before this cave, and the queen bountys, I'd already hit 28/29...I played the game, solid, and earnt everything the way bungie intended, BUT when all this was happening, not once did I bitch about it, "ahh giving all the newbies etc the easy ride when I've grinded for everything" no, not once did I post a negative comment etc about it, why? Because it didn't affect me, or bother me, people play there way, fair enough. I've got my way, again..fair enough right? What frustrates me, is now they've "fixed" (yes that's right, fixed there error, as most online games etc do after they realise what was "wrong") is that people think they've (bungie) done wrong! By fixing there wrong mistakes. Everyone needs to adapt, to how the game is revealing itself, how it is meant to be, farming should be farming, putting in actual effort. It's a fact, it's an MMO, if you haven't played these before, and are bitching about how this game is, do yourself a favor, trade the game in, it's been mere weeks since the release, for example, like COD, the first month is patchy, needs a lot of fixes, most this community atm are cod/battlefield players...you should be used to it...get over it. I love this game, left right and center. I love how I play, I love the friends and clan mates i play with. I enjoy the game, ENJOY a key word. Oh and before I go, I HAVE a life, a good one (before the people who disagree, call me out as a no life) I'm engaged to a beautiful lady, who's at uni and study's at home, hence my x amount of hours playtime there. I play poker several times a week, I drink with pals on the weekend, I watch most footy matches, I work 5 days a week, 12hr shifts. I'm happy, I'm happy with the game, it's keeping me in, and out the pub spending whilst I save for my wedding...happy days. I want this forum to get back to positive vibes. That's all I'd like. I read it whilst at work/travelling. All I want. Am I wrong? To the cave farmers and new players I'd imagine yes, to the destiny fans, I'm sure you'll agree. :) night night