To people who are saying "oh you can't beat vog without communication blah blah blah". While that might be true, it doesn't take a genius to figure out how to do it. There's also vids that show you. WoW has matchmaking so why can't Destiny?

[quote]I don't have a lot of time to play[/quote] Um..so...where'd that 102 hours of gameplay come from...

[quote]The title pretty much says it all. I know some people hate group finders, but for some people, like me, they are needed. I don't have a lot of time to play, and when I do, I don't want to waste a bunch of time looking for a group, especially in a game like this that doesn't have an easy way to find people. If this were a PC MMO, then yeah, I could just spam the message service and find a group, not so in this game. Bungie says that this is a decision they made on purpose. They would like to see the community build sites that allow people to match up for raids. Well there is a reason why this gets done, BECAUSE THE GAME DOESN'T HAVE A GROUP FINDER. It isn't because the game is so cool, that we go out of our way to do this, it is because there is no other choice. I am a web developer, and I applaud those that take the time to make sites like that, example Guild War 2, but that is no reason for a developer of a game to say, oh well, we will leave it up to the community. Another reason they give is that the raids are too difficult. They are afraid that "casual groups:" will lose players and not be able to complete the raid, to that I say LET THEM FAIL! First of all, don't underestimate your players, call them casual, and take something away. Give them what they ask for, and let them fail. At least we will feel like we have a chance. Some might say that you can do it solo, to that I say give me a break. If 6 people can barely get through it, solo would be stupid to try. I don't care if I get flamed for this, it has to be said for those who feel like me. When you put out a game that is fun, but lacks content, then add content that only certain players can enjoy, it's like a slap to the face. Adding a matchmaking service for raids HARMS NO ONE. If the raids are as difficult as Bungie states they are, then people will still have to do everything that you want the community to do. Don't force your fans to do something they don't want to do, they are fans after all. I am a long time Bungie supporter, from Halo to now Destiny. I have been on these boards defending this game, but that is now over. I refuse to play this game until this is resolved. If that takes me never playing again, so be it. I have plenty other games to play on the PC, XONE, and PS4. It's not worth the agitation. I want to wish you guys good luck on the game (if any Bungie employees actually read these rants), and hope it lives for a long time. #UPDATE: So I lasted about 12 Hrs without Destiny, and now I am back in the game...... Damn you Bungie!!! It is a fun game, and I don't see myself leaving it because of this anymore. I still would like to see matchmaking come to raids and other daily missions though![/quote] Here's a thought, you could go venture out into this crazy thing called the real world amd make real friends *gasp* and play destiny with them...just saying

Dude...you have more days on this game than I do. So much for "not having very much time to play" lol

I have not done a raid yet, I did go into it solo to see what it was about. I understood the first few minutes I was there what is required just to open the door but being by myself there was simply no way to do so. I left and went back to doing strikes and had an idea. If this raid is normal mode and when beaten you get to do a hard mode, what about an easy mode? A 3 player raid with match making, not the vault of glass mind you, a new raid that has mechanics built for a 3 man fire team. You can still earn shards and energies and legendaries equivalent to the vangaurd gear but maybe slightly better attributes. It can have 2-3 bosses to fight, it won't take as long or be has hard as vault of glass, but then its just to introduce players to the raid system and mechanics if they wish to do the harder ones. Players get access to the content without feeling segregated and those who did VoG have the better gear.

Personally, as someone who has attempted the VoG, that's a bad idea.

As much as i completely understand your post and where you're coming from, there is no way 6 randoms teaming up for the raid in match making will even get past the first stage of the first boss. This is coming from a lvl 29 hunter that has already beat the raid twice. Like you said, your setting yourself up for failure let alone about to be frustrated out of your mind. You have no idea how much mechanics mean in the raid and how flawlessly all 6 players have to be to be able to get through each stage of the raid. In all honesty, the raid isnt even fun its an absolute headache.