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9/21/2014 12:55:33 AM
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Bungie give titans some love
27 Titan here and I felt the need to voice my opinion on the state of the three classes. No this isn't a nerf bladedancer or sunsinger self rez op topic. Those abilities are called SUPERS and should be strong, personally i don't thing they need any tweaking good teamwork takes care of bladedancer and sunsinger is pretty balanced.
This topic is about how Titans got the short end of the stick in terms of their abilities compared to the other two classes. titans have only one form of aerial movement whereas Warlocks and Hunters have 2 (and they both get blink arguably the best movement ability)and the one interesting form of movement (catapult) is so underwhelming that it just feels like the extra momentum you get is from lightly farting.
when it comes to supers we get some cool abilities but there are some pressing issues. Defender's Ward of Dawn super is great....unless someone else has a super. The bubble breaks down to nova bomb, and fist of havoc which makes no sense considering the tooltip is "creates an indestructible shield". As a purely defensive ability it fails to even be a trump card to enemy supers. This doesn't mean the bubble is bad it just doesn't feel as good as the other classes abilities.
Striker titans have their own issues with Fist of Havoc. So for context when a warlock uses nova bomb they are semi unkillable while in the animation, titans are incredibly vulnerable to getting killed during their animation even with the talent that makes you take less damage during fist of havoc. If warlocks can be beefy during super and they get to THROW A PROJECTILE why don't we since we have to get into people's faces.
Overall the titan's kit seemed to be over-nerfed and their abilities are lacking. Hell the population of the game even shows that titans just aren't appealing enough with them being the least played class. there's other issues like not being invulnerable in shoulder charge or even damage resistant, no crazy talents at the bottom of the trees etc.
TL;DR Titans need some help in the ability department to make them on par with the other classes I don't want to just be a bubble vendor in raids I'd like to be as cool useful as the other classes.
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Titans have the easiest super to Iniate, super quick animation at melee range and if close you're screwed, depends on when and how, it's simply not the class for you, simple, the titans are suited to a play style they are in no way underpowered
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1 ReplyHi Titan FTW! I tried all the classes and sub classes and titan defender is the best, least for me. My playstyle is too aggressive for striker and would die a lot, then I lvled up my defender side,now my character doesn't die much at all. Ward of Dawn(WOD) is the panic button whilst I spend almost the rest of the time with force barrier on getting lightning fast reloads via either killing something melee or activating WOD and going in and out (I haven't got the added weapon damage feature yet for WOD) Titan catapult jump sucks I agree there so I stick with the first jump choice,added lift height, remember though titan can stop lift at anytime and re start it as long as its not all used up in mid jump, very tactical, and if your a striker and run jump you can shoulder charge from the air:) The only thing I would like to see is the ability/option to turn WOD into a stun grenade effect if anything enters the WOD bubble, player could back out of bubble and press super again to make the bubble go off like the striker stun grenade but of course no damage (it is defensive) just the blinding light of dawn to anything inside. cheers
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1 ReplyDude trying to kill a Defender Titan with his super up is like trying to defend your home from an armed gunman with a pool noodle...
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It's because every skill involving a Titan class takes ZERO skill. Ffs you get more damage resistance than any other class and a one shot melee. Not to mention your super can be dropped instantly and can't be avoided along with damage resistance.
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I have a friend who has racked up 8000 kills and is in top 1% with ability kills with an Eco Titan, and is top 20 on playstation, it's all about how the player uses them
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2 Repliesdeath from above should be part of the fist of havok already, and striker's melee, its... useless. Grenades could be better too, i only use the magnetic grenade of the defender, the others i only use to stop enemies. Just sad that if u like to melee, u have to go with the bladedancer.
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5 RepliesBoth warlock and hunter have offensive subclasses...I don't mind the warlocks classes, but the hunter imo is a bit ridiculous. .the golden gun and bladedancer are pretty over powered. A hunter can clear clear a room and at distance with the golden gun and bladedancer is just as strong with the closing distance. With the titan, the ward of dawn is really only good for pve...I am 26 titan and during a crucible match I used death from above and killed everyone in it...I also used the ward of dawn and a nova bomb took it and me out...so its really kind of useless I pvp..while it does give buffs to you and your teammates...it take just as long to charge as fist of havoc and a hunter with blade dancer can run into and kill everyone...as well as the warlock and another titan...also..players can out run a titans super or at least be out of range...or out jump the blast...I have yet to escape a bladedanceer or golden gun...players who think titans are overpowered haven't played with them yet or at least gone up against other classes...imo
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Shoulder barge and melee, all I'm saying
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2 RepliesI have the new helmet from xur equipped. My titan actually feels like a titan now. Especially using my super. The helm allows you to have the super man punch aswell as the increased defense while activating. Combine that with the shockwave and i am unstoppable
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Titans seem to be meant for support, not front lines. Use your shield to help generate orbs of light for your team to help protect an area. Like the other user said the hulk smash can clear clustered enemies. It's good. I love playing as the Titan.
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2 RepliesTitans can clear a flag in control with just that one ground pound they do hunters and warlocks can't though but tbh I think they're all fine I think we can agree that all classes have a really strong super ability but that's to help you get more kills and feel powerful and you can't use them again until they recharge so they seem balanced IMO
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"Lightly farting" 😂 I'm done
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8 RepliesI am a Titan, and I think it is over all balanced, although our "shoulder charge" is OP. But if something it's our ward of dawn, It SHOULD break. But we shouldn't get killed in it if the ward gets hit by a nova bomb. If I still die by a super in my "purple bubble of doom" The ability is just.... Although I still take less damage inside. Wich makes killing newbs easier.
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I can't tell you how many times a titan should have been killed in mid super and they end up invincible. I'm talking close range shotgun to the face and they just shrug it and slam me. I think everyone should have the same weakness when they use their super.
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8 RepliesI'm not a titan so I don't know if my opinion even matters. The ward of dawn is ridiculous. It gives you a personal shield as well as an inpenetrable purple ball. I can't tell you how many times I've ran into one of them, blasted the titan in the face with a shotgun at point blank range, only to get one hit melee killed by them with their shields still fully intact. It is very effective in PVE though, it gives people a good place to heal and reload in when on higher level missions. Fist of havoc... panic button, nuff said. I also don't believe that you've been killed in the animation, because its almost instantaneous when you press the buttons. Personally I agree with warlocks getting a health buff when doing the super, because there is a large delay. If there wasn't a health boost you would never be able to get the nova bomb out of your hand. P.S. Radiance is useless in PVP. The self revive announces itself to everyone in the game and makes a gigantic fireball. Its basically a grenade spam super.
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2 RepliesI feel like I'm being misinterpreted my issue is that the Titans dont have as man strong and interesting skills to play with. Abilities that really go "WOW thats super cool i cannot wait to unlock that" but instead most of them are neutered that being said the Titan is balanced, but the other classes are just plan stronger so instead of nerfing the other classes just give Titans a small buff Like shoulder charge not being charged after sprinting for a certain amount of time or leave fist of havoc as it is just increase the aoe to be similar to nova bomb. these are tiny fixes that I feel would help the class out alot not to mention buff catapult maybe remove the lift aspect and make it like double jump where the second jump significantly pushes you in whatever direction you are going to make you feel like a cannonball rocketing at enemies. to reiterate i do NOT want hunter and warlock to be nerfed i just was the titan to be buffed slightly these are called quality of life buffs things that help the class but do not dramatically change how they play.
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Edited by Ejin Renos: 9/21/2014 5:38:03 PMMy only problem with titans is they do not seem to be meatshields, and of course I am speaking of pve. Oh and ward of dawn doesn't prevent all aoe damage if you're close to the edges. Kinda have to step far back from line of fire.
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2 Replies26 titan here aswell, I feel the need for bungie to let me shoot from inside of my bubble for PvE and PvP benefits. Or give a bit of a poison effect for anyone who enters my shield. Nothing to major, just lower their health for each second inside my shield. There is a difference between a shield and a purple environment where I can get killed by shotguns and other supers while having a mediocre buff to health. That being said, it brings a tear to my eye when I meet an opposing titan in the crucible with his shield and my fist of havoc and I rain death on him while he is "safe" in his violet bubble.
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I'm a Warlock, and I'm fairly certain that we do not get any bonuses to health or shields while in the animation for Nova Bomb.
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I have a Titan and think they need to ditch the bubble and defender class. They got it wrong, please do something interesting instead if that's not too much to ask.
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I play as a titan. A blink jump would be nice but we're designated as tanks. It makes us the source of fire like were suppose to be. Maybe a minute shield from vault. And the supers are fantastic. I have no problem with them.
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1 ReplyIncreased lift control and Catapult are useless. Seriously, I try them and the only difference is I can't go as high. Which sucks.
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Edited by Branderson178: 9/21/2014 4:41:13 PMDefinitely agree with this post. The titans need to get some love Bungie.
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1 ReplyTitan is the best class for pvp. I don't know what you mean by nerfed? It's a great class.
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1 ReplyI see what you mean but the Ward of Dawn IS indestructible. It's never popped on me. The only time I get killed in it is when some one fists of havocs me inside or nova bombs me.
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28 RepliesHonestly the fact that they can panic super and control a point w/ grenades, bubbles, one shot melees, etc. seems like they got just as much love as the constantly bitched about blade dancers
