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Edited by Jason1618: 9/1/2014 4:02:49 AM
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Destiny Raiding Pick Up Groups

----------------------------------- Edit: Site is now live - please feel free to check it out at http://www.destinyfireteams.com/. I am still working on it so please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback. ----------------------------------- I understand Bungie's decision to not allow match making for raids, but it puts me in an awkward spot. I don't have enough friends who will play Destiny at a high enough level to complete raids. So if I want to do raids, I have to find a group online to raid with. I used to be a high level raider in a few various MMOs, and these groups require time commitments (i.e. Every Tuesday at 6pm) to work. In addition, you need oversubscription since people will randomly miss, which means often someone is sitting on the sidelines. The problem is, while I will put WAY more hours into this game then I care to admit, I'm not at a point where I can commit to a group of strangers to be available every particular day at a certain time. The solution I'm proposing is something I've used for sports for decades - Pick Up groups. It's more formal than match making, but less formal than clans or guilds. I am debating making a website to support this functionality, and if people respond here that they'd find value in this tool, I will put it together and have it ready before launch. Here's how I'd imagine it would go. You would sign up and link to your bungie account. If possible, I'd load your character details from bungie.net directly, but if not, you'd be able to put them in. If you wanted to organize a pickup group, you'd create an event that people could sign up for. In the event, you'd post start times, end times, and have functionality to accept players or let players know if all spots have been taken. If I just wanted to play and not organize, I could see all the listings and offer to join a few games. Now comes the time of the event. If everyone shows up, great. If not, the website would have a "floating pool" that individuals could join that would say "I'm available for raids right now but not part of any pickup group." This floating pool could also be used if someone drops out early. The key idea though is to make this better than match making, there needs to be a feedback system. Where possible, I'll try to scrape this data from bungie.net and pull the results of your raiding. But the main idea would be that after the raid, you could leave feedback about your team or your leader. I'm thinking along the lines of attendance / punctuality, skill, and friendliness. Performing well during a pickup would help you get invited to other pickups or picked first off the floating pool. Run a good pickup and more people will want to join yours. Systems like this have allowed me to play competitive sports when I can't commit to a league due to work issues. Friendly, skilled players are invited back while people who show up late, leave early, are rude will find pick up games less welcoming. It creates social bonds as you see the same people playing pickup at same times, just not necessarily every week so you can still participate even with a busy life. Would you guys find value in this type of a system? If so, I'll try to have it up and running here in a few weeks. I can also tell you that I'm taking the whole first week of destiny off work, so I'll be organizing a pickup for raids as soon as I'm leveled and geared enough to go. I can't wait for this game to come out.
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  • Edited by Jason1618: 9/1/2014 4:27:24 AM
    I just released a build of my site at http://www.destinyfireteams.com/. Please check it out, try things, and give me some feedback. If you anticipate using it, please go ahead and sign up for an account as well - that will give me a rough idea of the level of demand. If the site gets a bunch of users, my intention is to continue developing it and adding new features over the next few months. Please let me know what features you want to see! Edit: I created a new post for the site since this was more about ideas behind and to gauge interest. I'll be watching both for feedback, but the new post is over here: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/68516849

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    • Edited by XANEX24: 8/28/2014 2:52:09 PM
      It looks like there is another site with similar functionality but slightly different. [url]http://www.destinyteamfinder.com[/url] It looks like this site is to assemble a fireteam in seconds and yours will be to create a fireteam in advance?

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      • Update: I'm targeting turning the site live on September 2nd. Base functionality will be there. You'll be able to sign up, setup profiles, create events. Event types include raids, strikes, and crucible. Following an event, the ability exists to leave feedback for players you grouped with and this will go on their profile. There's an LFG tab were can post an ad basically saying "I'm available for the next few hours looking to do x" and this can be used to find extra's for raids or crucible or if you're just looking to do some chill strikes with people with actual microphones. Any feedback that week before Destiny hits will be greatly appreciated since I'd prefer to do as much updating prior to launch so I have more time play once it hits. Additional features, upgraded looks, etc, will come after a month or so once I'm done going crazy in the game myself. Examples of upgrades planned include automatically pulling over stats from your bungie.net profile which I had to drop do to time constraints.

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      • Yeya great idea, shame we may have to rely on something like this, will it cover theUK and Europe ? Also based on community feedback Bungie look to be addressing this issue but will have to wait and see.

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        • Edited by Jason1618: 8/9/2014 12:02:15 AM
          Minor update: I've gotten started on the coding and design. I'm targeting having something up and running about a week or so before release. It may be a bit bare bones at first, but I'll flush it out based on your feedback. Thanks for all the feedback so far!

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        • Im down im sitting here right now freaking out trying to find some sort of a website like your talking about so I don't miss out on raids

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        • This a great idea. It is sad to me that bungie is setting up a raid system that requires matchmaking work arounds like this. It defeats the purpose of their whole concept of only playing with a close group but is 100% necessary for gamers who have real lives outside of their consoles. In that sense it very much makes raids am elitist activity. A serious flaw in the bungie logic that random match making just doesn't work is that just because you fail with a random team, doesn't mean you didn't gain anything from the experience. They should look at CoD zombies as a model for console raids, I've spent hours playing the same match with random people who were just as into it as I was and had an amazing game. Doing this I've made friends to play with again later. Maybe if bungie allowed matchmaking but also enabled a system of rating like you're talking about here, giving players incentive to be descent to one another and commit to the raid. If you play like a dick and get a bad rating, it puts you in ranking to play with other jackasses. Something has to be done, going to an outside website completely destroys the level of immersion they hope to achieve by not allowing matchmaking.

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        • Best plan I've heard so far...would definitely be into this! Thanks for posting, great idea...

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        • I'd be down for this

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        • looking for players for raids ps4 my id ArgEv1L ,my bro id teagitohdp add us ty =)

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        • I like it, I'm always available on Xbox One, iDestinyHunter

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        • Seems like a great idea! Most of my friends have migrated away from the 360 to either the pc or current gen consoles

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        • I'd use this. Sounds good to me.

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        • PUGS work well when there's no other way. Used PUGS a lot in DDO online when usual Guildies weren't available. Please count me in. Hardcore gamer here.

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        • This is a terrific idea. I do the same thing for hockey.

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          • This sounds like an awesome idea I would use this since I only got 2 buddies I play with on ps4 right now we could really need the help when we get to the raids.

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            • An amazing idea. Count me in.

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            • Please do this

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            • You would my hero! Do it +Eleventymillion

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            • What you could do is have it set to stop asking for people when you teach like six it stops and then if someone doesn't show up it's like they get put in the floating group really great idea please make this a reality

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            • Please make this a reality. Hell, you may get some help from the folks at openraid if you ask! Feel free to pm me if you need any assistance. I'm not great with coding, but can usually figure it out.

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            • This is great. I say this a lot, but please... Give this man a potato

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            • I'm in the same boat of not having a dedicated group. I'd likely sign up.

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            • Edited by Nanokoi: 8/4/2014 11:10:23 PM
              If im not mistaken your talking about making a version of wow's Openraid.us for destiny. I used Open Raid quite a bit back in the day to find specific raid groups for achievements and was always happy about the people that I grouped with from that site. If you make this for Destiny i would use it. Definitely put the rating system your talking about in though for leaders and members. More often then not I would look at if people had scores that showed they were reliable before signing up for anything.

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            • Sounds like a great idea - but also a lot of work. But kudos to you if you can get it up and running. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this thread once the game is out!

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            • We are game. "We" are father and my 10 year old son. Perhaps there could be a father/son PG rated subgroup?

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