So, the two dueled twice. But looking at both duels, who "won" in your opinion? [quote]Duel #1 on Mustafar. Both in their prime.[/quote] "Don't make me kill you." - Vader "I will do what I must." - Kenobi "You will try.'" -Vader End result. Kenobi gets the "high-ground", warns Vader to not try to attack, Vader feels confident in his abilities, attacks, Kenobi defends, takes Vader's arm & both legs, Kenobi collects Vader's lightsaber, watches Vader catch fire and walks away. [quote]Duel #2 on the first Death Star. Both aged, Kenobi especially so.[/quote] "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner; now I am the master." - Vader "You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." - Kenobi A slow and cautious (especially compared to prequels) duel commences. Kenobi is tiring, defensive, and when he spots that the others are able to board the Millennium Falcon, he ceases to fight, brings his saber to a vertical position, Vader strikes and Kenobi's robes empty and his lightsaber falls to the deck. Vader collects Kenobi's lightsaber. So, is the final meeting a win for Vader? Did he actually "kill" Kenobi? Or did Kenobi "become one with the Force" as Vader swung? Was that his plan all along? IMO, it (did Vader ever beat Kenobi?) is not as clear as "Han shot first". What are your thoughts?