JavaScript is required to use Bungie.net

OffTopic

Surf a Flood of random discussion.
Edited by ash: 2/4/2013 5:13:45 PM
42

Why do we portray war positively and defend its violence?

One of my friends sent me the above vid, and I thought about his points. I always see that ads try to say that soldiers fight for our freedom everyday, like if they stopped shooting for a day, we'd be invaded. Like if they would stop launching airstrikes, we wouldn't be able to live happily. Like if we stopped sending young men and women to their deaths, we'd be enslaved by terrorists. They, IMO, don't fight for our freedom right now. This fight is a useless one. It is one the Soviets tried and failed, and is one we will also fail to do. We should stop thinking that we're freeing people or saving them by putting their country into more of a shit hole than what they started out as. One of my distant cousins joined the military, he seemed like he was brainwashed by some recruiter, saying his college will be payed for, he'll see new places, have an adventure, make life long friends. He used to be funny and out going. But when he came back and we visited him, he wasn't the same. Him and a bunch of his buddies from high school went with him, some of them are dead and most of them were severly maimed. Lucky for him onlly was shot 5 times and had two toes blown clean off. I KNOW he's suffering from PTSD, but he has to much pride in him to admit to it. He finished his college since then, but I don't see much of him anymore. His service is still highly respected by me, despite the feelings I have towards war violence, but I think we need to fight wars the REALLY matter. The fights we fight now don't. Stopping Hitler from killing anymore millions of people was "the fight for freedom". But we don't have wars like this anymore. We should stop glorifying war unless the cause is worth the death and suffering.

Posting in language:

 

Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

View Entire Topic
  • Edited by Diplomat: 2/4/2013 9:38:05 PM
    [quote] I always see that ads try to say that soldiers fight for our freedom everyday,[/quote] They are actively engaged in ongoing operations which help to ensure the global security environment is stable and sturdy enough to continue to allow our nation to prosper. [quote]like if they stopped shooting for a day, we'd be invaded.[/quote] Doubtful, but there would be very negative results to the global economy and our national security. [quote]They, IMO, don't fight for our freedom right now.[/quote] They fight for our security and the freedoms of other nations. [quote]This fight is a useless one. It is one the Soviets tried and failed, and is one we will also fail to do.[/quote] Under Obama's current pull out plan, maybe. [quote]We should stop thinking that we're freeing people or saving them by putting their country into more of a shit hole than what they started out as.[/quote] That's quite simply not true. The economic and social conditions of the average Afghani has improved since the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. To imply that it's anything other than that is to deny basic facts of life. [quote]One of my distant cousins joined the military, he seemed like he was brainwashed by some recruiter, saying his college will be payed for, he'll see new places, have an adventure, make life long friends. He used to be funny and out going. But when he came back and we visited him, he wasn't the same. Him and a bunch of his buddies from high school went with him, some of them are dead and most of them were severly maimed. Lucky for him onlly was shot 5 times and had two toes blown clean off. I KNOW he's suffering from PTSD, but he has to much pride in him to admit to it. He finished his college since then, but I don't see much of him anymore.[/quote] I'm very sorry. [quote]The fights we fight now don't.[/quote] The fight to allow religious freedom, economic prosperity, and the right to speak your mind without having a machete brought down on your nose is a worthless fight?

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    13 Replies
    You are not allowed to view this content.
    ;
    preload icon
    preload icon
    preload icon