[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OrderedComa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 The terminals in Halo 3 seem to suggest otherwise... Besides it makes sense. All those who come into power become corrupt, no exceptions.[/quote] And that would be where? >_> I've read the Terminals many times now and I haven't seen a single thing in them to denote the Forerunners as being even the least bit evil. That does not preclude there being individuals who are evil, such as Faber the Master Builder, but nothing in the terminals even remotely comes close to making the Didact or whole Forerunner species seem evil. [u]Librarian mentions that they have dominated the galaxy for far too long, and Gravemind says that the Forerunners are actively preventing the natural evolution of civilizations. Not because they fight him, but because they work against other life, if I recall correctly.[/u] That's actually not a true statement at all. People in power have the [i]potential[/i] to become corrupt (which does not inherently mean evil), but just because someone holds power does not make them corrupt. As Daefaron said, I suppose you think the Founding Fathers were corrupt and thus, as you seem to equate, evil? [u]Everyone is corrupt, some more so than others. Ben franklin for example was amongst the most promiscuous people in history. No one can be the perfect Mary Sue, and it would be moronic to expect that out of even the Forerunners. No matter how powerful they are, they are still mortal. Universally believing themselves to be God's gift to the universe as a matter of law doesn't help either.[/u] [quote]The story would more or less be the same. The only thing that would change is that the presence of "pro-human" Elites would be made known to the reader, as opposed to how Travis has made them seem non existent. In other words, a real split in the Elite world. However I doubt Bungie would change a lot of the story. Too much work, and honestly the picture Travis has painted so far seems realistic. After 25 years of war, any peace that has formed will be tense and there will be haters on both sides. However we both know this isn't going to happen is just a fantasy that some people want because the Halo Universe isn't going/is what they thought it was.[/quote] Eh, I don't think the story would be the same at all. But on the good Elites and those who are human sympathizers and/or supporters of the Arbiter's goals of peace and no more war at all with humanity getting better representation and actually having as significant role in the story as the Servants of Abiding Truth we can agree on at least. Whether it seems realistic or not...it's not what was laid out as what was supposed to be happening post war, at least the way Traviss is doing it is not realistic. Her Elites have no reason to hate humans other than just "humans are bad...um, yeah", basically going "just because", which is not any kind of legitimate reason. [u]That is objectively false. Their reasoning for wanting to destroy us preventative, so we don't do the same to them because they know we obviously have no love for the Elites, and by direct design or consequence, our inevitable expansion will suffocate them. In fact, it isn't even really hate, it's more strong fear being channeled as hatred.[/u] And her attitude that every single Elite except for the Arbiter hates humans and wants to kill them all again is also likewise not realistic or in line with had been set up as canon before she came along. [u]Also not true, as we've only ever seen 2 Keeps: Vadam and M'dama. Telcam's people tolerates us, and respects us enough to work with us, and there is a whole world of Keeps who probably don't even care. You're making the exact same mistake you accuse Traviss of making by generalizing 1 Keep as representative of the entire planet. We simply never hear about them because they either don't matter because they're indifferent, or actually [i]do[/i] want peace, but are unimportant given that they need to establish the Storm enemies.[/u] Yes, there will be xenophobic people on both side, however ONI would not be one of them, and even if they were, anyone attempting the treason that Parangosky is would not be able to do so, ONI is strictly overseen by the UNSC and can't act entirely on its own without anyone knowing what it's doing. [u]What evidence of this do you have? ONI and the UNSC have always been treated as two seperate entities, like twins: intimately connected, but still seperate. As a black ops organization, deniability needs to be established for the seedier goings-on at the ONI, so less people are made aware of it. The people in charge who [i]do[/i] have access are obviously in agreement with Parangosky's belief that the Elites are dangerous, and can you really blame them? Also, how are ONI "not one of them." As the silent protectors of the human race with full access to the grittiest detail of the war, they have more right to be xenophobic than anyone in the galaxy.[/u] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Raam Skorge Hahaha you know nothing of Halo.[/quote] Oh really? And what makes you say that, hmm? I know a lot more about Halo than quite a few of the people here or just as much as they do. My account here may not be as old as some, but I've always been one of the most active members on here since arriving and I've spent more time than I care to think about on Halo, whether reading the books or playing the games several dozen times over or just simply browsing around on Halopedian. I know plenty about Halo, acting as if I don't and that you're better than me is not the way to win any arguments and or make you any friends.[/quote]