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11/19/2012 5:40:23 PM
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Spartan Ops Ep. 3

Finally, Ep. 3 is here. Spoilers or whatever: - The Artifact was a transmitter/teleporter - Jul has made an in-game appearance. :) - Everybody hates Halsey because she's a "war criminal" -__- Thoughts?

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  • Yeah, lets go after Captain Keyes as well. Mendez should be equally punished. You know what, how about the S-1 project be taught to schools as the foundation of ultimate evil. The Spartans in history should also be condemned. Their act of trying to create the perfect solider is unethical, therefore it should never be carried out under any circumstance in any piece of fiction. All experimental projects must put ethics first and if that isn't possible. Then we must just accept failure. Sure the Covenant are miles different from the Rebels. But the means to achieve their goals where the same. Rebels would kill millions of innocents in order to achieve their goals. The abduction of 150 kids is a terrible thing but in the long term they saved millions as well [Even for their original targets, fighting the rebels]. For the parents, they did not even go through the grief of having their children missing and not finding them. The clones were used to counter that. These kids were special, they weren't just any children picked off the streets. It would be unethical no matter which way you looked at it. But was it necessary? That's debatable. But in context to the Halo Universe I would argue yes. They had a greater purpose, [u]to be humanity's greatest soldiers.[/u] That statement alone will always carry a heavy price. Insurrectionist were a major threat to the UNSC. If you really want to look at real life [lol its going there, the point where we take it sci-fiction too seriously] just compare atrocities in history of large scale unethical abuse just look at slavery in America pre-1864. Children were sold like nothing on a much, much greater scale. If you want to go to more recent history. Let's look at Palestinian Children in Gaza. They get abducted and subject to abuse for often times no reason other then just being Palestinian. Where was the law there? Obviously, they're always worse cases and that shouldn't justify such actions. But considering the circumstance in Halo fiction, I would say this is blown way out of proportion. The atomic bomb was a tragedy but if you want to compare this to Halo let's look at the Havok planet killing bombs. They were detonated on civilians as well, without the repercussions as a result felt in WW2. The S-II project isn't comparable to the Atomic bomb ethically. The whole 'would you sacrifice a million to save a billion question' is a crucial theme in many works. But Halsey's project was hardly comparable to sacrificing millions, but she had achieved her end goal. Another stance would be. "Does the end justify the means?". Putting Halsey in such a negative stance, when she actually has Humanity's best interest at heart, more so then the likes of Ackerson and Parang with the absurdly hypocritical S-III project is just bad works of writing. The lack of the S-III being mentioned is shoddy. Ethically it was worse off in every way apart from the better argument procedure and the method in which the candidates were obtained. Let's look at children who were being sent to their deaths, ill-equipped. Just about every main character in Halo has achieved something unethical and punishable by law at some point. The Halo Univere we're exposed to is nearly always in a constant state of war. Morals takes a back seat to survival for many. But it's not like these characters lack a moral compass, it's because they made choices which would be consider unethical. You guys are living in a perfect world made up in your head where everything that you consider is suddenly attention seekingly wrong should be put right. That isn't how any piece of good piece of fiction / reality works. There is no such perfect justice. Especially in the Halo Universe. Otherwise if law is law. Like you say. Every single person in ONI should be locked up. Unless the laws are different. But then we're just nitpicking. Super nerd style. It ultimately is the downfall of works intending for entertainment, for it to be taken as seriously as a bible. [Edited on 11.26.2012 1:54 PM PST]

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