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1/2/2013 6:01:58 PM
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Career Opportunities Forcast
What does the Bungie's career opportunity forcast look like?
Now that the holiday break is over, do you think it is a good time to send in that resume to Bungie?
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I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio. It might look fun but the pay really isn't that great in AAA and half of the IT work is outsourced for cheap to India. Unless someone from Bungie can put my facts right.
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It's a good time to send your resume to Bungie anyday. As long as your qualified for the postion your applying for. [Edited on 01.02.2013 10:08 AM PST]
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No harm in doing so. Good luck!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio. It might look fun but the pay really isn't that great in AAA and half of the IT work is outsourced for cheap to India. Unless someone from Bungie can put my facts right.[/quote]There are some things you can only learn from a AAA company. AFAIAC pay is just a bonus, to get an inside look at the process of creating a AAA title, priceless..
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frag Ingot [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio. It might look fun but the pay really isn't that great in AAA and half of the IT work is outsourced for cheap to India. Unless someone from Bungie can put my facts right.[/quote]There are some things you can only learn from a AAA company. AFAIAC pay is just a bonus, to get an inside look at the process of creating a AAA title, priceless..[/quote]You want it honestly? It's exactly the same as a smaller game, just with more people creating fancier graphics with fancier equipment. That's literally it. Don't get me wrong, when I'm through university I'd love to try for Bungie for the atmosphere and camaraderie of it all, but still. [Edited on 01.02.2013 10:08 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frag Ingot [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio. It might look fun but the pay really isn't that great in AAA and half of the IT work is outsourced for cheap to India. Unless someone from Bungie can put my facts right.[/quote]There are some things you can only learn from a AAA company. AFAIAC pay is just a bonus, to get an inside look at the process of creating a AAA title, priceless..[/quote]You want it honestly? It's exactly the same as a smaller game, just with more people creating fancier graphics with fancier equipment. That's literally it.[/quote]I'm not sure that is true. And Bungie seems to be different in that fact. There seems to be a majestic aspect to Bungie. I am not sure from whom or what this magic eminates from, but I must know the source!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Don't get me wrong, when I'm through university I'd love to try for Bungie[/quote] One could almost say that it sounds like you're trying to discourage potential competitors from applying for a job you want.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frag Ingot [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio. It might look fun but the pay really isn't that great in AAA and half of the IT work is outsourced for cheap to India. Unless someone from Bungie can put my facts right.[/quote]There are some things you can only learn from a AAA company. AFAIAC pay is just a bonus, to get an inside look at the process of creating a AAA title, priceless..[/quote]You want it honestly? It's exactly the same as a smaller game, just with more people creating fancier graphics with fancier equipment. That's literally it. Don't get me wrong, when I'm through university I'd love to try for Bungie for the atmosphere and camaraderie of it all, but still.[/quote] Bungie wants people who have made successful games to add to their experience.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Don't get me wrong, when I'm through university I'd love to try for Bungie[/quote] One could almost say that it sounds like you're trying to discourage potential competitors from applying for a job you want.[/quote]Bungie is one of the more unique studios. Looking at a general job in the AAA industry, no thanks. Bungie, I'd consider.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frag Ingot [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio. It might look fun but the pay really isn't that great in AAA and half of the IT work is outsourced for cheap to India. Unless someone from Bungie can put my facts right.[/quote]There are some things you can only learn from a AAA company. AFAIAC pay is just a bonus, to get an inside look at the process of creating a AAA title, priceless..[/quote]You want it honestly? It's exactly the same as a smaller game, just with more people creating fancier graphics with fancier equipment. That's literally it.[/quote] Err, my teachers and past students of my school say no to that statement. That's not "literally it". If you go indie, you'll be more involved in the game you're working on. If you go AAA you'll get to see the codebase, learn how to adapt, etc. There's more, and saying "It's exactly the same as a smaller game, just with more people creating fancier graphics with fancier equipment. That's literally it.", is just wrong.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theslatcher [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frag Ingot [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio. It might look fun but the pay really isn't that great in AAA and half of the IT work is outsourced for cheap to India. Unless someone from Bungie can put my facts right.[/quote]There are some things you can only learn from a AAA company. AFAIAC pay is just a bonus, to get an inside look at the process of creating a AAA title, priceless..[/quote]You want it honestly? It's exactly the same as a smaller game, just with more people creating fancier graphics with fancier equipment. That's literally it.[/quote] Err, my teachers and past students of my school say no to that statement. That's not "literally it". If you go indie, you'll be more involved in the game you're working on. If you go AAA you'll get to see the codebase, learn how to adapt, etc. There's more, and saying "It's exactly the same as a smaller game, just with more people creating fancier graphics with fancier equipment. That's literally it.", is just wrong.[/quote]Not from my experience. We have a family friend who works at Playground Games and it's seriously just more indepth asset creation with a deeper codebase that any dedicated indie could make just as much use of (though he probably wouldn't need to)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Don't get me wrong, when I'm through university I'd love to try for Bungie[/quote] One could almost say that it sounds like you're trying to discourage potential competitors from applying for a job you want.[/quote] [url=http://qkme.me/3sevfj]relevant[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Needler Rifle [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Don't get me wrong, when I'm through university I'd love to try for Bungie[/quote] One could almost say that it sounds like you're trying to discourage potential competitors from applying for a job you want.[/quote] [url=http://qkme.me/3sevfj]relevant[/url][/quote]Keen to know where you found that saved >.>
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Pity the requirements for each job are so high
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Needler Rifle [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Don't get me wrong, when I'm through university I'd love to try for Bungie[/quote] One could almost say that it sounds like you're trying to discourage potential competitors from applying for a job you want.[/quote] [url=http://qkme.me/3sevfj]relevant[/url][/quote]Keen to know where you found that saved >.>[/quote] google
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Needler Rifle [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Needler Rifle [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 I honestly don't see why anyone would apply for a AAA studio.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Don't get me wrong, when I'm through university I'd love to try for Bungie[/quote] One could almost say that it sounds like you're trying to discourage potential competitors from applying for a job you want.[/quote] [url=http://qkme.me/3sevfj]relevant[/url][/quote]Keen to know where you found that saved >.>[/quote] google[/quote]interesting
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Not from my experience. We have a family friend who works at Playground Games and it's seriously just more indepth asset creation with a deeper codebase that any dedicated indie could make just as much use of (though he probably wouldn't need to)[/quote] And I know teachers from Ubisoft Massive( One worked on WiC and GC as Software -something-(he can't remember, but his name is in the top 5 names in the credits) and the other worked on Far Cry 3 ), then students who're working/interns at studios such as DICE, Ubisoft Montreal, Rare, Ubisoft Bulgaria, Starbreeze, Tarsier, SouthEnd, etc(among with indie devs that I cannot remember). and some created their own indie studio. There's a huge difference from what they've started learning depending on the studio, but the biggest difference is between the indie and AAA interns/workers. But that's just programmers, no idea about artists, but level designers got better tools at their disposal at an AAA studio.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theslatcher [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Not from my experience. We have a family friend who works at Playground Games and it's seriously just more indepth asset creation with a deeper codebase that any dedicated indie could make just as much use of (though he probably wouldn't need to)[/quote] And I know teachers from Ubisoft Massive( One worked on WiC and GC as Software -something-(he can't remember, but his name is in the top 5 names in the credits) and the other worked on Far Cry 3 ), then students who're working/interns at studios such as DICE, Ubisoft Montreal, Rare, Ubisoft Bulgaria, Starbreeze, Tarsier, SouthEnd, etc(among with indie devs that I cannot remember). and some created their own indie studio. There's a huge difference from what they've started learning depending on the studio, but the biggest difference is between the indie and AAA interns/workers. But that's just programmers, no idea about artists, but level designers got better tools at their disposal at an AAA studio.[/quote]Hence fancier equipment, etc. At the heart of it all is fancier equipment, a deeper codebase and lots more assets with high quality. Made by lots more people. Granted there's a bit more to it but nothing that the everyday employee is going to encounter, especially an entry level one.
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I wish you good luck Ingot, I think the fact that someone from Pixar skipped over to Bungie is a good sign ;) (can't remember the breaking in article that was mentioned in, sorry)
