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11/20/2012 3:59:12 AM
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Why is bestiality illegal?
It's not harming anyone, and isn't as bad as CP
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Humans are killed for meat. Even some other humans do it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SpaceMilk [quote]So, Technoxious, do you think someone who hunts and kills animals for fun is worse than someone who performs intercourse on an animal?[/quote] killing is worse, raping is ok. They live and not get babies.[/quote] Maybe i just dont get it because i dont understand how a human could find a animal attractive. At all. good motto you should go by is: if they are killed its for meat, if you have sex with them you're a creep
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkSunnyboy1 Let me rephrase that, is the act of killing the animal (for fun) worse than having intercourse with it without it's consent?[/quote] I would say no. Hunting animals is often for the species' own good. Without it, they would go through cycles of overpopulation and then starvation.
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Let me rephrase that, is the act of killing the animal (for fun) worse than having intercourse with it without it's consent?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkSunnyboy1 So, Technoxious, do you think someone who hunts and kills animals for fun is worse than someone who performs intercourse on an animal?[/quote] Uh...no. I actually have a lot of friends who are hunters.
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[quote]So, Technoxious, do you think someone who hunts and kills animals for fun is worse than someone who performs intercourse on an animal?[/quote] killing is worse, raping is ok. They live and not get babies.
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So, Technoxious, do you think someone who hunts and kills animals for fun is worse than someone who performs intercourse on an animal?
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[quote] Some will say its a question of consent but that's not really the case. Bestiality is behavior that most people find disgusting and immoral. -blam!--blam!-ity also used to be illegal and still is in parts of the world.[/quote] nailed it. The real reason why it is illegal. If we can slaughter millions of cows for meat, I guess I can -blam!- them too. They don't have kids, they don't die, we move on. People who kill cows I guess have sick minds as well.
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Simple, in a democracy the law is supposed to reflect the values of society. If the majority believe that bestiality is wrong, the chances are that it will be illegal. [Edited on 11.19.2012 10:34 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] r c takedown So animals are allowed some rights and not others? [/quote] Some will say its a question of consent but that's not really the case. Bestiality is behavior that most people find disgusting and immoral. Homo-blam!-ity also used to be illegal and still is in parts of the world.
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Its not illegal in 23 states. but 0/10
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I haz question. Why is this thread still alive? Whatever I guess...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] r c takedown So animals are allowed some rights and not others? We need consent from an animal in this case, but it's fine, even celebrated, to kill and eat an animal? Of course i don't support bestiality, it's horrible to even think about, but i just think it's strange how we have such double standards in society these days. [/quote] Why is it legal to execute criminals in some places, but it is illegal in some of those same places to commit acts of torture and -blam!-? We hold identical standards to other humans.
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So animals are allowed some rights and not others? We need consent from an animal in this case, but it's fine, even celebrated, to kill and eat an animal? Of course i don't support bestiality, it's horrible to even think about, but i just think it's strange how we have such double standards in society these days.
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[url=http://youtu.be/btk1sOBvY5c]A love story.[/url]
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Well as many have already stated, animals don't have a say in it and in most cases probably don't approve. Also not only does society frown on it, but so do does the natural order of things. So it's abnormal in most cases, if not all. [Edited on 11.19.2012 10:16 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spagheeett so what are you trying to say its an abnormality to also want to have sex with animals, just like -blam!--blam!-ity? Killing animals is bad but people like meat, i guess that means having sex with animals should seam just as bad and not worse because there is no evidence that the animal isnt like "yes! bone me! Its the human consent alone that makes it bad, not the animals. Its just messed up. I suppose that messed up just means its "icky for nothing other then arbitrary reasons" then right? im not even going to try anymore..i suppose you're fighting for a day -blam!- animals is as bad as killing them..[/quote]Yes, I think we both agree on the fact that wanting to have sex with animals is abnormal, and homo-blam!-ity is abnormal as well(not passing any value judgment though). And I think having sex with animals is bad, but we don't value their input in almost any other walk of life. The thing i'm arguing the most for, is people should be intellectually honest about their views, and its not an intellectually defensible position to say that bestiality is wrong because they don't consent, otherwise humans would change our ways. That's what i'm really fighting for, though I do think the government shouldn't be in the bedroom, even if that bedroom does have an animal in it.
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so what are you trying to say its an abnormality to also want to have sex with animals, just like -blam!--blam!-ity? Killing animals is bad but people like meat, i guess that means having sex with animals should seam just as bad and not worse because there is no evidence that the animal isnt like "yes! bone me! Its the human consent alone that makes it bad, not the animals. Its just messed up. I suppose that messed up just means its "icky for nothing other then arbitrary reasons" then right? im not even going to try anymore..i suppose you're fighting for a day -blam!- animals is as bad or less so then killing them.. [Edited on 11.19.2012 10:09 PM PST]
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why isn't this locked?
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Using my proprietary troll rating formula. I award this thread a 2.8/10
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The animal can't say no.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz The consent argument is perfectly valid. There is no age of consent for murder of a human being. They are entirely unrelated issues. Killing a dairy cow according to regulations is, in theory, a painless exercise. Raping one, generally, is not.[/quote]Who said they were releated issues? I never likened the age of consent in humans in any of my posts. You also failed to show why we should all of a sudden add in the notion of consent in animal relations, when we don't find it relevant anywhere else. Killing a dairy cow(and the conditions they live in[or any other animal for that matter]) is not painless, no matter how much the meat industry lobbies for that. I think its a certain necessary evil, but I admit that we don't value animals views of consent in that issue. If we were to value consent then we should stop killing animals, because I can't find any argument for why its okay to kill an animal, but its so much more wrong to have sex with one. And you also fail to grapple with the fact that sometimes the animal wants sex. That is quite clearly not a case of -blam!-. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spagheeett [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xvise66 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spagheeett its more then icky..having sex with someone of the same sex shows your -blam!-ity is just plain psychotic. normal sex happens when you're a women in the "what turns me on" area in your head, ghey sex happens when you're just -blam!- up. In no way should we ever find the same sex attractive. So all you gheys who actually like the same sex stop kidding yourself and seek help.[/quote] As I've just shown, everything you have said could be, and has been said in criticism of -blam!--blam!-ity. You provided nothing other then "I think this is icky for nothing other then arbitrary reasons"[/quote] no..not at all..-blam!--blam!-ity is an abnormality that can happen, animal sex is a sign of a deranged and sick mind, you mixing around the edges in my words doesnt change anything,despite if people are messed enough to think thats the same. if you like animals you're more then an abnormality you have strayed from the human thought process and thats why its looked down on.[/quote]Once again, everything you said could be, and has been said in criticism of homo-blam!-ity. When you can form a rational argument that uses evidence like everyone else in the thread then you can come back to the discussion. [Edited on 11.19.2012 9:54 PM PST]
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I agree with OP. So there's this goat...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xvise66 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spagheeett its more then icky..having sex with someone of the same sex shows your -blam!-ity is just plain psychotic. normal sex happens when you're a women in the "what turns me on" area in your head, ghey sex happens when you're just -blam!- up. In no way should we ever find the same sex attractive. So all you gheys who actually like the same sex stop kidding yourself and seek help.[/quote] As I've just shown, everything you have said could be, and has been said in criticism of -blam!--blam!-ity. You provided nothing other then "I think this is icky for nothing other then arbitrary reasons"[/quote] no..not at all..homo-blam!-ity is an abnormality that can happen, animal sex is a sign of a deranged and sick mind, you mixing around the edges in my words doesnt change anything,despite if people are messed enough to think thats the same. if you like animals you're more then an abnormality you have strayed from the human thought process and thats why its looked down on.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xvise66 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spagheeett its more then icky..having sex with someone of the same sex shows your -blam!-ity is just plain psychotic. normal sex happens when you're a women in the "what turns me on" area in your head, ghey sex happens when you're just -blam!- up. In no way should we ever find the same sex attractive. So all you gheys who actually like the same sex stop kidding yourself and seek help.[/quote] As I've just shown, everything you have said could be, and has been said in criticism of -blam!--blam!-ity. You provided nothing other then "I think this is icky for nothing other then arbitrary reasons"[/quote] The consent argument is perfectly valid. There is no age of consent for murder of a human being. They are entirely unrelated issues. Killing a dairy cow according to regulations is, in theory, a painless exercise. Raping one, generally, is not.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spagheeett its more then icky..having sex with someone of the same sex shows your -blam!-ity is just plain psychotic. normal sex happens when you're a women in the "what turns me on" area in your head, ghey sex happens when you're just -blam!- up. In no way should we ever find the same sex attractive. So all you gheys who actually like the same sex stop kidding yourself and seek help.[/quote] As I've just shown, everything you have said could be, and has been said in criticism of homo-blam!-ity. You provided nothing other then "I think this is icky for nothing other then arbitrary reasons"
