I don't know, but he should be back on his planet soaking up some sunlight.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EVIL FERN 117 well since we are on the topic of Halo novel authors... What is the order of the books? [/quote] Read them in order of when they were released. Start with [i]The Fall of Reach,[/i] finish with [i]The Thursday War.[/i] Only one I haven't read is [i]The Cole Protocol.[/i] I've got it on my Kindle but can't seem to get into it. [/quote] thank you!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GrandmasterNinja he needs his Vitamin D after being in the suit for so long.[/quote] [b]CHIEF DRINK DAT SUNNY D!!!!!!![/b]

Fapping?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EVIL FERN 117 well since we are on the topic of Halo novel authors... What is the order of the books? [/quote] Read them in order of when they were released. Start with [i]The Fall of Reach,[/i] finish with [i]The Thursday War.[/i] Only one I haven't read is [i]The Cole Protocol.[/i] I've got it on my Kindle but can't seem to get into it.

well since we are on the topic of Halo novel authors... What is the order of the books?

Reunited with his fellow Spartan 2s and getting interrogated by ONI about the Didact most likely.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PhyscoRaiderS97 Not sure there, "6 months after the Campaign" was a horrible cover up. To me it doesn't feel like part of the story, I like the fact they have episodes and stuff about the Spartan IV's but they should've done it before the Campaign perhaps. Too show the Spartan IV's in action, so you know who they are. Afterwards is pointless, cba to follow the storyline really thinking about the Chief and Cortana is too intense.[/quote] Some interesting things, though. We know Covenant asylum seekers are on Earth. We know New Phoenix is still under quarantine six months after the Didact hit it (which makes me think the UNSC/UEG are citing a virus-outbreak rather than telling the general population the truth about the Forerunners/Composer.) There's also the mysterious artefact found at the end of episode one, and the very fact that the UNSC seems to be trying to secure Requiem as it has Trevelyan, whereas the New-Covenant seem to be squatting there, probably waiting for the Didact to return. I agree that the story could be better, but it's doing it's job and is a nice incentive to play the missions every week.[/quote]

I don't know, maybe he is taking a nice long nap in cryo?

[quote] I should open a thread where we continue to parody how various autors would write Halo... [/quote] I'd like that.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog I prefer 343i's approach to the [i]Halo[/i] universe over Bungie's, but that's not to say I dislike the latter -[/quote] [quote]I think Traviss' style works for post-war Halo, that's my personal opinion.[/quote]I respect that, I honestly do, but do you really see it fair to propagate for Halo to turn into something it wasn't from the beginning only cause you prefere it that way? I think that's why the others and I who are in [i]agony[/i] becasue of what 343i are doing find so dangerous with posts that defend it. It's not the fear of losing Halo, we've already [i]lost[/i] Halo. It's a desperate act to defend what we stand for, what we wish to be associated with. Selfishly--arguably righfully so--we want it for ourselves. The books have all had their styles, but I guess that it's first now that it really matters, [b]now when the games, the forefront pf the fiction, has changed its style.[/b] [url=http://youtu.be/6HTt6QJqzxk]I've used it once before, but I'll use it again since it illustrates my point pretty well.[/url] This is a battle between egoists; we want it our way. The question is however; who's got the most rightious opinion? Is there a rightious opinon? Those who want Halo for what it was, or those who want Halo for what they've recently seen it as because of change? Something I wrote last month: [i]"To believe that 343i's contribution is what is good for Halo, is an opinion, one that isn't biased on the rules of the original Halo trilogy. Bias is everything. If one is indifferent to change, one has nothing to say, since this indifference isn't in favour of the foundation that is subject to change, but to the change itself."[/i] That's where I stand. Thing is, many don't want to give up. I have, I see it as a lost cause; 343i will continue to dilute Halo. Not only in the story departement (I'm not sure what was originally intended anymore, which is a first), but design too. Just simple things as them seemingly being stuck in the trend of adding more polygons for the same of it, or priorotising [i]surface graphics[/i] instead of A.I, physics, etc. Look at the armours. What about them evokes utilitarism, stylishness, iconicity; previously held virtues? All I see is a cluttered mess due to meta reasons such as attemps to be as varied as possible in order to compete with the growing demand of characterisation. What's the next step, even more, where will it end? [b]Where will it all end?[/b] It wont change back, I know the industry far too good to believe that. Halo 4 managed to cash in 220 million dollars in one day! [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] anton1792 [u]I don't see how 343i's post 2010 Halo is more intrinsically complex than anything Bungie ever did.[/u] What is complex about "All Elites hate Humans", or about "Humans are ignorantly expansionist"? Their attention to characterization is perhaps better but their flat setting stifles it for me.[/quote]I'd even argue it's the opposite. It's way more obvious now, more blunt and forced.[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MaxRealflugel I don't believe Halo is turning into something it's not. I believe it's turning into something it was destined to be. Bungie planted the [i] Geas [/i] of Halo, 343i are simply awakening it.[/quote]Good post, but I don't agree with the last part. For me it is obvious that they no longer are aiming towards finishing what Bungie started, they're aiming towards continuing the story and taking it places I honestly don't think Bungie ever intended it to go. This became clear to me when I reread the Halo 3 Terminals.[quote][/quote]Hope Destiny comes along soon. I should open a thread where we continue to parody how various autors would write Halo... [Edited on 11.14.2012 6:57 AM PST]

Ah, the young, impertinent academia of Bungie.net. I think we can all agree that our written work is perfectly sound. But there's no need for mud-slinging or name calling or indirect accusations of being exasperatingly obtuse. So let's cut to the chase. When it comes to the written fiction of Halo, I think we can all agree to disagree. All of them have a different style, approach, tone and flow of prose, as can be expected. And each writer was chosen for his/her previous work. But all represent indescribably small slices of the universe that we love -- for various reasons. I liked all of the novels apart from [i] The Flood. [/i] That may, of course, be the result of having very little time to write the novel. Dietz only had five weeks to crank it out. And the result was an alternative, though choppy, viewpoint of [i] Combat Evolved [/i] where the Master Chief came across completely differently to the Nylund standpoint. But I shouldn't be defending Dietz, really. Nylund himself only had five weeks for [i] The Fall of Reach. [/i] And that turned out okay. NOTE I said okay and not brilliant. But the novel brought all of the necessary points across and gave us the original backbone of Halo canon and history. I like Nylund. His style is action orientated, which is good for providing an initial high and setting the scene clearly and concisely. But his novels do lack some depth. But they're not flat by any means. Greg Bear on the other hand is lord and master of sci-fi opera. He creates a grand canvas of possibilities. But I sometimes feel a little detached from the characters. But that's just my taste I suppose. Or is it my desire for the Forerunners to turn around to humanity and say 'Sorry for the misunderstanding. Can we be friends?' Traviss on the other hand presents little in the way of action or grand space-opera settings, but has a talent for bringing out the humanity in a character and making the plot a more personal adventure, with plenty of intrigue. I love her [i] Gear of War [/i] books. The portrayal of each 'gear' is realistic and colourful. And that is reflected in her writing of Kilo-5. But as fans, we are privileged. We have seen the Halo universe from every angle. Almost. We know things the characters don't. Or we think we know. As for the direction of Halo, of the franchise we care about, we have to recognise the fact that 343i will obviously want to play things their way, to set them apart from Bungie -- put their stamp on Halo. I don't believe Halo is turning into something it's not. I believe it's turning into something it was destined to be. Bungie planted the [i] Geas [/i] of Halo, 343i are simply awakening it.

Being a semi-interesting protagonist somewhere else. At least Halo 4 bumped him up from 'talking brick' status.

He's playing poker with the rest of blue team.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ansac11 *Spoiler* That whole 6 months after the end of the campaign doesn't really make sense. Reason: In one of the early chapter of Spartan Ops, Miller or whoever that Spartan is, is surprised to see the Covenant working along side the Prometheans; however I remember the Chief and the Infinity crew finding out that exact same thing on the 3rd or 4th mission of the campaign. [/quote] And they expect me to believe the Infinity almost falls for the same trick a second time? In the Ops, the artifact does the same thing that was described as happening in the campaign. And in both, the Infinity almost/actually falls into the planet. Come on Infinity, get your crap together!

Master Chief is probably in therapy waiting to see Halsey about cortana. Maybe he's going to be into the spartan 4 program. [Edited on 11.14.2012 5:05 AM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog It's full of your 'ideal-realism,' and if the writing weren't so average (I [i]was[/i] only 13 when I started it) you'd probably enjoy it over 343i's work, since the simplicity of the story is something you seem to want.[/quote] I don't see how 343i's post 2010 Halo is more intrinsically complex than anything Bungie ever did. What is complex about "All Elites hate Humans", or about "Humans are ignorantly expansionist"? Their attention to characterization is perhaps better but their flat setting stifles it for me. I was hoping to see something along the lines of species define loyalties and morality get a lot more cloudy, but instead we got Karen Traviss demonizing Humanity and creating Mary-Sutopias. However I guess going into the guilt of the Arbiter or the Elites and their struggling ambivalent mindset, or about people questioning why they should back someone simply because he is the same member of your species, is too "simple". Let's forget about stories about how two or more people can come to see eye to eye. Rather, everyone should just go back to killing each other, because that's more complex? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog I think I'm one of the rare individuals who loved Bungie's work and loves 343i's work, so really I'm a bigger fan of [i]Halo[/i] than you are.[/quote] Go ahead and play that card, on the assumption that I have always hated 343i. You are wrong. About October 2011 they seemed to just say "Screw it", even with their own Evolutions story, The Return. Up until then I enjoyed everything they did. And I still spend my money on their products for some reason. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog That you automatically assumed my light parody of Nylund was an attack on you demonstrates that you view yourself as somewhat of a 'fanboy' of his work and anything pre-343i simply because it is that, otherwise you wanted have been so wounded by my little joke about him. When I read your 'written by Karen Traviss' I had a good laugh because you were right (I didn't know you wrote it to insult me, which is pretty stupid), that is the sort of typically bleak thing she would write and every author can be predicted in that way - to go back to your [i]Game of Thrones[/i] analogy (I've read all the books by the way, love it to bits) you wouldn't buy a [i]Halo[/i] book by G.R.R Martin and then complain that it's not optimistic and light-hearted. This is just how these authors are.[/quote] It wasn't an insult. Or do you mean to tell me that you find the claim that you like to trample Bungie's story insulting? Knowing your candour on here from what I have seen you say to Grey101 on numerous occasions leaves me with the impression that you were, just like then, taking a whack at me. I'm not convinced you were joking by the way. Not in the slightest. Only after Janaka made a parody of Greg Bear does it appear that you seized on that. However continue saying that if you want. It has little to do with Nylund. Some of the things you caricaturized have very little to do with him and are more to do with the main game trilogy itself and even some of 343i's [i]own works[/i] before Kilo-5. However, yes you could feasibly complain at a novel written by G.R.R Martin for whatever reason there might be. You wouldn't level those criticisms at the authors though, but at the editors. (I.e. 343i) [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog But you get way too antagonistic for me to have a proper discussion with this about, and before you spout some Latin crap at me ('wah, ad hominem's poisoning this virginal well of objectivity') keep in mind that you threw the first stones, by implying I'm just a 'pseudo-intellectual' and getting in my face, so to speak, about why I like this series and why I'm here.[/quote] The first stone was about turning Halo into something it's not, not about anything you just said here. That came when you made a cheap parody, which I still think was intended to make fun off.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] anton1792 I don't see how that justifies your trampling of it now, unless you are saying here that you have essentially just been trolling all along and haven't meant any of it. However you probably do mean it.[/quote] I prefer 343i's approach to the [i]Halo[/i] universe over Bungie's, but that's not to say I dislike the latter - the opposite, in fact. Indeed, between 2008-2010 I wrote a 337 page fan fiction serving as a 'Halo 4,' in effect, before we knew the series would continue. It's full of your 'ideal-realism,' and if the writing weren't so average (I [i]was[/i] only 13 when I started it) you'd probably enjoy it over 343i's work, since the simplicity of the story is something you seem to want. I'm not so much trolling as playing devil's advocate. To some extent I do believe the things I say, but usually as well I'm arguing to see how others will justify their own viewpoints rather than just saying 'Traviss is terrible' or '343i have ruined Halo.' I think I'm one of the rare individuals who loved Bungie's work and loves 343i's work, so really I'm a bigger fan of [i]Halo[/i] than you are. That you automatically assumed my light parody of Nylund was an attack on you demonstrates that you view yourself as somewhat of a 'fanboy' of his work and anything pre-343i simply because it is that, otherwise you wanted have been so wounded by my little joke about him. When I read your 'written by Karen Traviss' I had a good laugh because you were right (I didn't know you wrote it to insult me, which is pretty stupid), that is the sort of typically bleak thing she would write and every author can be predicted in that way - to go back to your [i]Game of Thrones[/i] analogy (I've read all the books by the way, love it to bits) you wouldn't buy a [i]Halo[/i] book by G.R.R Martin and then complain that it's not optimistic and light-hearted. This is just how these authors are. I think Traviss' style works for post-war Halo, that's my personal opinion. Her AIs are brilliant and her dialogue is very well-penned (laughed out loud a fair few times, like when Vaz is looking at Mal's Mantis and says he ordered a few collar sizes too big, and then Mal replies with 'I'll wear a jumper underneath it' - maybe that's because she's English like myself, so I can identify with her humour and dry, faux-bleak writing style .) But you get way too antagonistic for me to have a proper discussion with this about, and before you spout some Latin crap at me ('wah, ad hominem's poisoning this virginal well of objectivity') keep in mind that you threw the first stones, by implying I'm just a 'pseudo-intellectual' and getting in my face, so to speak, about why I like this series and why I'm here. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka I saw it as light sarcasm, though we were just having a bit of fun at the expense of the Authors by parodying their styles? [/quote] I was (making fun of Nylund's invincible heroes and portrayal of Halsey as a Mary Sue, and Dietz' overall complete lack of ability as an author (has anyone else read his Mass Effect novel with Kai 'eat your cereal in revenge' Leng? It's one of the worst things I've ever read), but it's pretty clear now that he wasn't.

[url=http://imgur.com/gallery/Cajhl/new]All of your questions, answered in one tidy image[/url].

Probably listening to Smiths records I suppose.

I really really hope Chief is able to relax. At least a little bit. I was devestated after the final cutscene, but then it hit me that Chief finally is back on Earth. The place he always deserved to be since Halo 3.

Going on the talk show circuit, blubbering about Cortana's "death".

Much like Chuck Norris who doesnt sleep but waits, MC is probably waiting for something to screw up again, probably something from the Infinity who is messing around with Forerunner stuff, so he could ask for a gun and start shooting things and pressing buttons.

*Spoiler* That whole 6 months after the end of the campaign doesn't really make sense. Reason: In one of the early chapter of Spartan Ops, Miller or whoever that Spartan is, is surprised to see the Covenant working along side the Prometheans; however I remember the Chief and the Infinity crew finding out that exact same thing on the 3rd or 4th mission of the campaign. [Edited on 11.13.2012 7:12 PM PST]

sleeping in

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] anton1792[/quote]Whilst I may agree with you on the topic of keeping Halo [i]pure[/i] (have done so plenty of times), and find that much of your wording pinpoints my sentiments, I can't see why you felt it necessary to go on a full-fledged attack over a post that so vaguely hinted towards any favouritism? I saw it as light sarcasm, though we were just having a bit of fun at the expense of the Authors by parodying their styles? Maybe I was wrong? ... Keep it clean, guys.[/quote] I was going to post this, basically. Not everything is to be taken seriously, there's no need to get super defensive over some light sarcasm. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Minymario *Spoiler" Spartan ops is Halo 5 [/quote] Jokes aside, this does bring up why I was really posting. With everything connecting now, I'd imagine that S:Ops would start to tie threads and introduce some light elements of Halo 5, possibly with the reintroduction of characters like Arbiter, or introducing some new planets or devices that will be important later. I can't see 343i missing this oppurtunity to start tying threads with their next game, which I'd wager is starting preproduction by now, script writing, brainstorming and all that. [Edited on 11.13.2012 5:26 PM PST]