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9/5/2012 5:48:04 PM
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If the lesser ark is installation 00 then ?
Then how should we call the greater ark ? like installation -01 ?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Madmaxepic [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] antony X1000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 There are two Arks because Bungie arbitrary destroyed something that had significance so 343I made another so it could actually be explained and explored.[/quote]Wasn't it 343 that confirmed that the Lesser Ark was destroyed? I recall Bungie pretty much leaving it open to speculation.[/quote] "B-b-but a premature firing will destroy the Ark!" ~ 343 Guilty Spark[/quote]I'd imagine that either way the Ark would repair itself, then build Installation 04 III.[/quote] This Might be possible. We know there was damage to ark, and we know that even halo can repair themselves. So most likely.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bagan bodies 2 Greater Ark: Installation 00A Lesser Ark: Installation 00B [/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] antony X1000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 There are two Arks because Bungie arbitrary destroyed something that had significance so 343I made another so it could actually be explained and explored.[/quote]Wasn't it 343 that confirmed that the Lesser Ark was destroyed? I recall Bungie pretty much leaving it open to speculation.[/quote] "B-b-but a premature firing will destroy the Ark!" ~ 343 Guilty Spark[/quote]I'd imagine that either way the Ark would repair itself, then build Installation 04 III.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FTW 1997 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka EDIT: oh, and if she scaned it for life-forms, she would have noticed that there were Huragok there... (Glasslands).[/quote] I'm not so sure about that, they may be organic but they're just biological computers.[/quote] That dosent mean they arent a life form. Even if they have the power of a computer and only follows orders it still is a biological life form.[/quote]Still, the important thing to take away from this is that Halsey didn't scan for [i]life-forms[/i] whatsoever.[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka since no evidence prior states otherwise.[/quote] Circular logic.[/quote]?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka EDIT: oh, and if she scaned it for life-forms, she would have noticed that there were Huragok there... (Glasslands).[/quote] I'm not so sure about that, they may be organic but they're just biological computers.[/quote] That dosent mean they arent a life form. Even if they have the power of a computer and only follows orders it still is a biological life form.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka EDIT: oh, and if she scaned it for life-forms, she would have noticed that there were Huragok there... (Glasslands).[/quote] I'm not so sure about that, they may be organic but they're just biological computers.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MozzarellaMonky You sir pure genius. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bagan bodies 2 Greater Ark: Installation 00A Lesser Ark: Installation 00B ?[/quote][/quote] I feel like I'm the only one who answered the question.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 A Halo ring going off isn't the same as a fusion reactor. You do notice that we see not a single ounce of debris from The battle of the Bias or the 300 year flood war? Even for the vastness of space since all of these actions happened within 60 light years of earth somebody would have seen something. A [b]tactical[/b] fire is going to destroy everything. ONI isn't going to be able to travel to a random point outside of the galaxy.[/quote] That is a good point, how didnt anyone see the halo activation ? Let me answer, the effect of the halo was made only around our galaxy, which is 100,000 lightyears. So, inorder to see in time 100k years ago, you have to look outside our galaxy, so logically, bungie choose the year 100k years ago for a reason, that reason is that so no one from the galaxy can see the halo activation.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka since no evidence prior states otherwise.[/quote] Circular logic.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 Both of Karen Travis' novels state the installation wasn't finished and the forerunners never returned. And if that were the Case the Sentinels wouldn't have ignored the spartans after a certain point.[/quote]Karens novels exist in correlation to Halo 4; they are in favour of Requiem, of coarse they render Onyx [i]unusable[/i] - they decided to place the continuation of the story [i]in[/i] Requiem. That just contributes to my point; prior to Travis novels, Halo 4, etc, whatever Requiem is, could just as well have been Onyx, since no evidence prior states otherwise. [Edited on 09.10.2012 4:49 PM PDT]
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Both of Karen Travis' novels state the installation wasn't finished and the forerunners never returned. And if that were the Case the Sentinels wouldn't have ignored the spartans after a certain point.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 But that was in a book where they don't arbitrarily destroy things.[/quote]It might not have been arbitrarily destroyed, but it was arbitrarily ignored (until further notice anyway). I don't see why whatever is going to take place on Requiem couldn't just as well have happened [i]in[/i] Onyx.[/quote] Mendicant Bias sends John to the Forerunners at the end of Halo 3; at the end of Ghosts of Onyx, Halsey scans the Onyx Dyson Sphere and states that there are no Forerunners present.[/quote]That's not exactly what happened, Fred asked Halsey why the Forerunners weren't there, she said she didn't know. Halsey did not scan the surface the size of a small solar system. Not in TGoO anyway. She made an analysis based on the spectroscopic value of the sun and readings from Linda's scope, to find out where they were, and eventually, how big the MDS was. I bet one can stand days at certain spots on Requiem without seeing any Forerunner, especially if they are in [i]Crypum[/i] or something similar. The same would go for Onyx. Sure, I guess one can [i]interpret[/i] that there actually aren't any Forerunner there, but nothing says there aren't. EDIT: oh, and if she scaned it for life-forms, she would have noticed that there were Huragok there... (Glasslands). [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 It wasn't ignored it was brought up in reach though Karen is ignoring elements though. requiem is a type of prison Onyx was a get away.[/quote]It was brought up by Karen in order to close that particular arc, and move the characters [i]trapped [/i]within to [i]another story[/i]. Onyx could just as well have been a/the prison. [quote][/quote]When it comes to the [i]destruction[/i] of Installation 00, all I will say is: [b]exploding scaffolding[/b]... [Edited on 09.10.2012 8:45 AM PDT]
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The range is 3 radii from the galactic center, approximately 150,000 Light Years.
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A Halo ring going off isn't the same as a fusion reactor. You do notice that we see not a single ounce of debris from The battle of the Bias or the 300 year flood war? Even for the vastness of space since all of these actions happened within 60 light years of earth somebody would have seen something. A [b]tactical[/b] fire is going to destroy everything. ONI isn't going to be able to travel to a random point outside of the galaxy.
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Obliterated still doesn't mean there isn't a lot of salvage out there that ONI could use, and will most likely take advantage of thanks to their new slipspace capabilities. [Edited on 09.09.2012 6:08 PM PDT]
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[b]Obliterated[/b], That word has a purpose nor would there be a purpose in rebuilding the ark. It's location would make it difficult not to mention all the other denying factors.
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We don't know exactly what level of catastrophic damage the Ark took when the Halo fired. 343 said it would destroy it, but I don't see the whole thing being vaporized so there must be [i]a lot[/i] of salvageable wreckage... that is if no Sentinels survived or weren't brought in from other installations to repair and refit. Also, how do we know the Greater Ark can't produce a Lesser Ark replacement?
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Because people like substituting the truth with their own reality.
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I would say that the greater ark is Installation 000. Why there is a three page debate over the destruction of the lesser ark I have no idea.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 But that was in a book where they don't arbitrarily destroy things.[/quote]It might not have been arbitrarily destroyed, but it was arbitrarily ignored (until further notice anyway). I don't see why whatever is going to take place on Requiem couldn't just as well have happened [i]in[/i] Onyx.[/quote] Mendicant Bias sends John to the Forerunners at the end of Halo 3; at the end of Ghosts of Onyx, Halsey scans the Onyx Dyson Sphere and states that there are no Forerunners present.
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It wasn't ignored it was brought up in reach though Karen is ignoring elements though. requiem is a type of prison Onyx was a get away.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 But that was in a book where they don't arbitrarily destroy things.[/quote]It might not have been arbitrarily destroyed, but it was arbitrarily ignored (until further notice anyway). I don't see why whatever is going to take place on Requiem couldn't just as well have happened [i]in[/i] Onyx.
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But that was in a book where they don't arbitrarily destroy things.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog It's obvious the Ark in Halo 3 was destroyed; too soon in my opinion, Bungie wrote it out before we knew much about it. Which is probably 343i's opinion too, hence why they've created the Greater Ark/Lesser Ark situation.[/quote] Exactly what i said. I have gotten tired of bungie introducing something that is suppose to be insanely important and destroying it within the same game.[/quote]So, exactly what did 343i do with Onyx?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 I hope not, they are already ruining the covenant by involving them and rushing the plot to have them in halo 4.[/quote] Although I'm conflicted on the issue of the Storm playing a significant role in [i]Halo 4[/i] (although less so now I know why, after the Thursday War leak), since the announcement of the Reclaimer trilogy I've expected that we will at some point in the trilogy return to 'our' space. By which I mean the Orion belt and wherever the Covenant empire extends to. I can imagine the [i]Infinity[/i] leaving Requiem for home at the end of [i]Halo 5[/i] with John aboard, but although the situation on Requiem might be resolved, I think that we'll just be getting started. I don't think the Didact is the Ancient Evil and I think by the end of the first game he'll become an ally. I think we've yet to see the Ancient Evil, and it'll be revealed at the end of [i]Halo 4[/i] - whether that manifests as the Timeless One or something else is something I'm not sure about. But when it appears, we'll need everyone to band together - human, Covenant, Forerunner - whatever.
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You sir pure genius. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bagan bodies 2 Greater Ark: Installation 00A Lesser Ark: Installation 00B ?[/quote]
